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		<title>By: Tottz</title>
		<link>http://worldofarsenal.co.uk/2012/01/25/be-careful-what-you-wish-for/#comment-51224</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indeed, my friend Arseblogger is the king of kings at putting things in perspective and on paper.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, my friend Arseblogger is the king of kings at putting things in perspective and on paper.</p>
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		<title>By: shard</title>
		<link>http://worldofarsenal.co.uk/2012/01/25/be-careful-what-you-wish-for/#comment-51222</link>
		<dc:creator>shard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[that was written in arseblog - think it hit the nail on the head.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that was written in arseblog &#8211; think it hit the nail on the head.</p>
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		<title>By: shard</title>
		<link>http://worldofarsenal.co.uk/2012/01/25/be-careful-what-you-wish-for/#comment-51221</link>
		<dc:creator>shard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to various reports in The Sun (not linking) and The Express (won’t link because of auto-playing video), there was something of a team meeting at the training ground this week. Some might call it ‘crisis talks’, some might call it ‘group therapy’, some might call it ‘Trevor’. What it’s called doesn’t matter a jot though.

Apparently Arsene got the players together and told them to believe in themselves, told them he loved them, cherished them, respected them, wrote ocassional poems about them (mostly sonnets but sometimes a baudy Limerick – “There was a lad called Chamakh, who was really quite poor in attack … erm … “There once was a small guy from Russia, whose father was not a drug pusher, that was John Terry’s father … har har” … etc), and that they all needed to pull together like never before to ensure we salvage something from this difficult, trying, obnoxious season.

I do like stories like this though. A ‘team meeting’ becomes big news because there seems to be a perception that they go out, do training, run about a bit, and never speak about stuff anyway. You can be quite sure that the team have training ground meetings when things are going well and they have them when things are going badly. Of course the ones when things are going badly are a bit more ‘inquesty’ and perhaps a touch more ‘finger pointy’ with a slice of ‘What the fuck was that in the last game there [player who didn&#039;t quite deserve the Limerick that was written for him]?’, but they do happen.

Famously, in Arsene’s first full season, there was a team meeting which many people think took place after a 3-1 defeat to Blackburn at Highbury, but reading back through Tony Adams biography, it happened before that. We’d just lost twice in a row, 2-0 to Sheffield Wednesday, 1-0 to to Liverpool, and it was Pat Rice who suggested the team and the management get together.

They did, the senior players had their say, looking for more from players like Overmars and Petit, for example, and even though the next game was won (away at Newcastle), the Blackburn defeat followed. Interestingly, Tony had this to say after it:

The next day I looked in on the Arsenal website and was horrified by the comments. ‘Tony’s playing rubbish,’ it said. ‘It would be a shame if it were to end like this’.

I felt really angry. What was all this? Even if it does end like this, they have had good value from me. ‘They’re a fickle lot, these fans’, I thought. I felt really down.

This was 1998! The parallels between then and now are obvious (in terms of the circumstances), and if Tony Adams thought comments on the internet were harsh back then, imagine what he’d be subjected to nowadays. It’s all well and good saying players should have a thick skin because they earn £xx,000 per week but they are just human, not unfeeling robots. While you can legitimately ask whether or not some players are doing enough to dampen down some of the criticism, nobody is that strong that they’re not affected in some way by boos from their own fans.

What happened after the Blackburn game back then was Tony being given three weeks off to go see a fitness specialist in France, and the team got its shit together in a big way. Whether that was down to the meeting or not, it’s hard to say, but I’m sure it played a part. However much a player respects a manager or the shirt or the club he’s at, the people he least wants to let down are those he’s playing alongside.

If there were some harsh words spoken at the training ground this week, if some fingers were pointed behind the scenes rather than in the full glare of the watching public (as some seem to think is acceptable), then it would be no bad thing. It’s a workplace at the end of the day, if the poor performance of somebody else is affecting how well you can do your job, wouldn’t you say it?

Players have to be accountable, to the manager, to the fans, but most of all to each other, because once the whistle blows they’re the ones that matter most for the 90+ minutes that follow. If a midfielder needs more movement from the forwards, say it. If a defender wants more protection from midfield, say it. Only by demanding the best from others can you get the best from yourself. And we need those players, the ones motivated to do that, to stand up and let the others know what needs to be done.

I often say that football is a game of fine margins, and we can talk tactics, style, game plans and everything else till the cows come home, but sometimes what a team needs to find is some character. At the moment we seem a bit meek, a bit compliant, a touch brittle and seriously lacking in self-confidence. We need to be a bit more Arsenal, to remember that we’ve got a cannon on our chests, to show a bit more fight, a bit more pride, and if the players are behind the manager then let’s see it.

The problems we have can’t be solved 100% overnight. Even bringing in new players wouldn’t make things right straight away, although I still maintain it’d be a help. It’d be nice if there was an easy, one-step, no fuss solution to what’s going on, but there isn’t. And before anyone says ‘New manager’, there’s no guarantee that would do the trick either, especially when Stan appoints John Gregory.

Let’s hope that we’ve enough players in that squad who want to turn things around, who will have said their piece and that those they’ve said it to have enough balls to respond, instead of sulking. We showed we had something about us when we went on that run from September to December. With so much at stake between now and the end of the season, it’s time to show it again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to various reports in The Sun (not linking) and The Express (won’t link because of auto-playing video), there was something of a team meeting at the training ground this week. Some might call it ‘crisis talks’, some might call it ‘group therapy’, some might call it ‘Trevor’. What it’s called doesn’t matter a jot though.</p>
<p>Apparently Arsene got the players together and told them to believe in themselves, told them he loved them, cherished them, respected them, wrote ocassional poems about them (mostly sonnets but sometimes a baudy Limerick – “There was a lad called Chamakh, who was really quite poor in attack … erm … “There once was a small guy from Russia, whose father was not a drug pusher, that was John Terry’s father … har har” … etc), and that they all needed to pull together like never before to ensure we salvage something from this difficult, trying, obnoxious season.</p>
<p>I do like stories like this though. A ‘team meeting’ becomes big news because there seems to be a perception that they go out, do training, run about a bit, and never speak about stuff anyway. You can be quite sure that the team have training ground meetings when things are going well and they have them when things are going badly. Of course the ones when things are going badly are a bit more ‘inquesty’ and perhaps a touch more ‘finger pointy’ with a slice of ‘What the fuck was that in the last game there [player who didn't quite deserve the Limerick that was written for him]?’, but they do happen.</p>
<p>Famously, in Arsene’s first full season, there was a team meeting which many people think took place after a 3-1 defeat to Blackburn at Highbury, but reading back through Tony Adams biography, it happened before that. We’d just lost twice in a row, 2-0 to Sheffield Wednesday, 1-0 to to Liverpool, and it was Pat Rice who suggested the team and the management get together.</p>
<p>They did, the senior players had their say, looking for more from players like Overmars and Petit, for example, and even though the next game was won (away at Newcastle), the Blackburn defeat followed. Interestingly, Tony had this to say after it:</p>
<p>The next day I looked in on the Arsenal website and was horrified by the comments. ‘Tony’s playing rubbish,’ it said. ‘It would be a shame if it were to end like this’.</p>
<p>I felt really angry. What was all this? Even if it does end like this, they have had good value from me. ‘They’re a fickle lot, these fans’, I thought. I felt really down.</p>
<p>This was 1998! The parallels between then and now are obvious (in terms of the circumstances), and if Tony Adams thought comments on the internet were harsh back then, imagine what he’d be subjected to nowadays. It’s all well and good saying players should have a thick skin because they earn £xx,000 per week but they are just human, not unfeeling robots. While you can legitimately ask whether or not some players are doing enough to dampen down some of the criticism, nobody is that strong that they’re not affected in some way by boos from their own fans.</p>
<p>What happened after the Blackburn game back then was Tony being given three weeks off to go see a fitness specialist in France, and the team got its shit together in a big way. Whether that was down to the meeting or not, it’s hard to say, but I’m sure it played a part. However much a player respects a manager or the shirt or the club he’s at, the people he least wants to let down are those he’s playing alongside.</p>
<p>If there were some harsh words spoken at the training ground this week, if some fingers were pointed behind the scenes rather than in the full glare of the watching public (as some seem to think is acceptable), then it would be no bad thing. It’s a workplace at the end of the day, if the poor performance of somebody else is affecting how well you can do your job, wouldn’t you say it?</p>
<p>Players have to be accountable, to the manager, to the fans, but most of all to each other, because once the whistle blows they’re the ones that matter most for the 90+ minutes that follow. If a midfielder needs more movement from the forwards, say it. If a defender wants more protection from midfield, say it. Only by demanding the best from others can you get the best from yourself. And we need those players, the ones motivated to do that, to stand up and let the others know what needs to be done.</p>
<p>I often say that football is a game of fine margins, and we can talk tactics, style, game plans and everything else till the cows come home, but sometimes what a team needs to find is some character. At the moment we seem a bit meek, a bit compliant, a touch brittle and seriously lacking in self-confidence. We need to be a bit more Arsenal, to remember that we’ve got a cannon on our chests, to show a bit more fight, a bit more pride, and if the players are behind the manager then let’s see it.</p>
<p>The problems we have can’t be solved 100% overnight. Even bringing in new players wouldn’t make things right straight away, although I still maintain it’d be a help. It’d be nice if there was an easy, one-step, no fuss solution to what’s going on, but there isn’t. And before anyone says ‘New manager’, there’s no guarantee that would do the trick either, especially when Stan appoints John Gregory.</p>
<p>Let’s hope that we’ve enough players in that squad who want to turn things around, who will have said their piece and that those they’ve said it to have enough balls to respond, instead of sulking. We showed we had something about us when we went on that run from September to December. With so much at stake between now and the end of the season, it’s time to show it again.</p>
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		<title>By: Berth</title>
		<link>http://worldofarsenal.co.uk/2012/01/25/be-careful-what-you-wish-for/#comment-51218</link>
		<dc:creator>Berth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 15:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ robin. I thought you were a bad guy. You keep turning from good to bad to good again. Where do you stand dude.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ robin. I thought you were a bad guy. You keep turning from good to bad to good again. Where do you stand dude.</p>
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		<title>By: yemi</title>
		<link>http://worldofarsenal.co.uk/2012/01/25/be-careful-what-you-wish-for/#comment-51214</link>
		<dc:creator>yemi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;@ robin&lt;/b&gt;:
We await that day when restriction will be placed on spending! but mark my words, it won&#039;t work cos clubs will find a way to subvert it !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@ robin</b>:<br />
We await that day when restriction will be placed on spending! but mark my words, it won&#8217;t work cos clubs will find a way to subvert it !</p>
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		<title>By: robin</title>
		<link>http://worldofarsenal.co.uk/2012/01/25/be-careful-what-you-wish-for/#comment-51208</link>
		<dc:creator>robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In 05/06 we lost Vieira and finished 4th. By 07/08 we had lost Cole, Lauren, Campbell, Ljungberg and Henry and we finished 3rd. Vieira was replaced by a teenage Fabregas, Cole by Clichy and Henry by Adebayor. We have lost big players before and had fans complain about the quality of their replacements. I bring this up because I just read an article that says that more than 50% of clubs across europe are in the red. Chelsea and Utd are not that far ahead of us despite £50m Torres and £30m Berbatov. We are keeping up with the best in our league and on the continent without spending a penny. We may not be competing but we are not as far away as some fans would have you believe. I say all this because fifas financial fair play laws become relevant at the start of next season. When spending is restricted to funds generated 1) Chelsea and Man City won&#039;t be able to offer rediculous wages and steal or targets/players 2) the board will have less places to hide.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 05/06 we lost Vieira and finished 4th. By 07/08 we had lost Cole, Lauren, Campbell, Ljungberg and Henry and we finished 3rd. Vieira was replaced by a teenage Fabregas, Cole by Clichy and Henry by Adebayor. We have lost big players before and had fans complain about the quality of their replacements. I bring this up because I just read an article that says that more than 50% of clubs across europe are in the red. Chelsea and Utd are not that far ahead of us despite £50m Torres and £30m Berbatov. We are keeping up with the best in our league and on the continent without spending a penny. We may not be competing but we are not as far away as some fans would have you believe. I say all this because fifas financial fair play laws become relevant at the start of next season. When spending is restricted to funds generated 1) Chelsea and Man City won&#8217;t be able to offer rediculous wages and steal or targets/players 2) the board will have less places to hide.</p>
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		<title>By: Tottz</title>
		<link>http://worldofarsenal.co.uk/2012/01/25/be-careful-what-you-wish-for/#comment-51198</link>
		<dc:creator>Tottz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Plenty to talk about right now, unfortunately. Interesting to read all the comments and thank you all for reading. 

I personally do think it will be wenger&#039;s last season and he would have decided this a while back. If we don&#039;t finish top 4 or win the fa cup, it will be a very sorry way to see him go. 

Who the hell would/could replace a manager who has revolutionised a club for 16 years? Tough dilemma ahead. 

I&#039;ll be back next week as always.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plenty to talk about right now, unfortunately. Interesting to read all the comments and thank you all for reading. </p>
<p>I personally do think it will be wenger&#8217;s last season and he would have decided this a while back. If we don&#8217;t finish top 4 or win the fa cup, it will be a very sorry way to see him go. </p>
<p>Who the hell would/could replace a manager who has revolutionised a club for 16 years? Tough dilemma ahead. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be back next week as always.</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 21:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The first thing needing sorted at Arsenal is the wage structure, Diaby 60k? chamack 60k Van persie 70k? wtf? arsenal should introduce a pyramid structure so that the van.p&#039;s and cescs of this world etc, can be paid in and around the going rate for there talent. we are wasting way to much money on players like diaby, chamack, arshavin, rosicky, squillaci, almunia, bendtner.etc in my opinion it&#039;s just terrible management at Arsenals boardroom level.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first thing needing sorted at Arsenal is the wage structure, Diaby 60k? chamack 60k Van persie 70k? wtf? arsenal should introduce a pyramid structure so that the van.p&#8217;s and cescs of this world etc, can be paid in and around the going rate for there talent. we are wasting way to much money on players like diaby, chamack, arshavin, rosicky, squillaci, almunia, bendtner.etc in my opinion it&#8217;s just terrible management at Arsenals boardroom level.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wenger is good at many things, and could continue to be good at them and be part of a very successful club. The problem has been, he has been allowed to have too much control. He has been in charge of making too many of the key decisions. And like anybody else, AW has his fair share of weakneses. These weakneses have come to the fore and will not go away until he either learns from them quickly or is given (and lets people give him) the support in the areas he needs.

anybody trying to do everything themselves will always come unstuck. is he too stubborn to admit this though?

&quot;but for all his power, couldn&#039;t foresee his own demise&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wenger is good at many things, and could continue to be good at them and be part of a very successful club. The problem has been, he has been allowed to have too much control. He has been in charge of making too many of the key decisions. And like anybody else, AW has his fair share of weakneses. These weakneses have come to the fore and will not go away until he either learns from them quickly or is given (and lets people give him) the support in the areas he needs.</p>
<p>anybody trying to do everything themselves will always come unstuck. is he too stubborn to admit this though?</p>
<p>&#8220;but for all his power, couldn&#8217;t foresee his own demise&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Berth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Berth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Better spend on quality to give you assurance than spend on whack players with unpredictable end product.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better spend on quality to give you assurance than spend on whack players with unpredictable end product.</p>
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