Liverpool vs Arsenal: Team News – Could Schwarzer be in goal?

Evening fellow Gooners. It’s been a long time coming, but El Premiershipio is only days away… with Sp*rs and Citeh kicking off the campaign on Saturday at 12:45 and of course, The Arsenal taking on Liverpool at 4pm on Sunday afternoon. It’s been a big debate to whether or not certain players will be fit and whom Arsene will choose to start at Anfield.

The injury situation was updated today and the boss had this to say:

“Alex Song has a calf problem and will be short. Denilson will have a test on Friday or Saturday on an abdominal problem. Diaby has a calf problem but he is back in full training. He might be available and Andrey Arshavin is all right. But I still have to make a decision about whether I will include Van Persie and Fabregas in the squad.”

The worry for me is that Arsene says Diaby is back in training… yeeks. Only joking…

Johan Djourou is out with a hamstring injury and it’s not clear how long he is out for. There is a worry with his injury proneness and ultimately it highlights the lack of depth in the centre back department. We’re down to Vermaelen and Koscielny and we have no other centre backs available. We can only presume Nordtveit will be on the bench, but that is by no means any real cover. There is news that Bendtner is out until October and Ramsey looking to return in November, so we’ll start the season without those two players.

So, based on who we know is fit and available, then the following group of players will be the selection we choose from:

Almunia, Fabianski, Mannone, Szczensy

Eboue, Sagna, Nordtveit, Vermaelen, Koscielny, Gibbs, Clichy

Frimpong, Wilshere, Nasri, Denilson, Rosicky (maybe Cesc)

Walcott, Chamakh, Arshavin (maybe Van Persie, maybe Vela)

And as a result, I think the line-up Arsene will choose is:

Fabianski

Sagna – Koscielny – Vermaelen – Clichy

Denilson – Nasri

Walcott – Rosicky – Arshavin

Chamakh

(Bench: Almunia, Eboue, Nordtveit, Frimpong, Wilshere, Cesc, Vela)

There is a serious rumour from “those in the know” that the Mark Schwarzer deal is happening tomorrow (Friday) and he could be in line for his debut against Liverpool. I’m personally not convinced of his quality, he may be less error prone than our current crop but he’s a bit of the same in my eyes. Some publications insist that a deal has been agreed both with us and the club – and us and the player – prompting speculation of an imminent deal.

If this were the case, it would be likely that Fabianski would be number 2 and Almunia would depart for pastures new, with Aston Villa potentially looking for a new keeper. There is also some noise on Mannone joining Middlesborough as Brad Jones joins Liverpool… the transfer merry go round looks to be kick starting… let’s hope it works out in our favour… to be honest, I wouldn’t mind another deal – one with a defender – to happen tomorrow too!

I’ll leave you with Tommy V’s rallying call to the team. It’s time to win a trophy…

“You have to look at all games which we lost, and each one had its own story. In football, it is really difficult to perform at a high level in every game – and that is what we have to do every year. We are one year older now, more experienced. For myself, as an individual, I have learned a lot last year and I hope I can improve. I feel the same pressure as I did last year, that is to be as good for the team as I can, to perform the best I can and to win some things. The difference now is that everything is not new to me anymore, but sometimes the second season is more difficult than the first.”

Come on you Gooners, let’s make a statement of intent at Anfield this weekend – more teams news and analysis throughout the weekend.

Adios for now……

  • http://kelvinomuojine.blogspot.com Kelvyn

    Whatever happens, we need a quality ‘keeper and at least one quality centreback…not waiting till January!

  • Goonerman

    @dev
    I know you have your doubts about schwarzer but I really would have him ahead of all or goalkeepers ar the moment! I would much rather wenger push for the keeper sitting on man cities bench on Saturday afternoon but I think they would do everything possible to stop a deal so schwarzer is probably the best short term option!

    The cb issue is really worrying because even our back up on song is injured anto be relying on back up from a youngster is not good enough for s game against Liverpool, I really hope wenger has something up his sleeve

  • Kodjo

    @ Dev

    You forgot to include JET …is he not part of Arsene’s plans for this season? In view of Bendtner injuries…???

    Th CB position worries me the most….Wenger just has to bite the bullet and pay over the odds…cos it will be crazy to go into the season with just 2 CB’s as i consider Djourou hit and miss. Nordveit untested ……where does this leave us …surely in a much weaker position than last season

  • Kodjo

    How about Wenger going for a cut price deal for Curtis Davies…c’d be a solution… i know he hasnt played much but he still has the needed top level experience ….which c’d become important once he gets game time…

    Dev what are your thoughts???

  • Josiah

    Great news arshavin is back, I hope wenger decides to put RVP and cesc in the squad, they are two of our best players, if he does will they start or end the game?

  • Josiah

    Infact, surely because our next game after Liverpool is Blackpool at home, wenger should go for a 4-4-2 with clichy and sagna the full backs, vermaelen and koscielny centre halfs, arshavin left, walcott right, nasri and cesc in the middle, RVP and chamackh uprfront. Rest RVP and Cesc for the bpool game?

  • Berth

    Hleb going to Liverpool.

  • Sam

    With all the uncertainties, can’t wait for our EPL opener!
    Go Gunners, Go!

  • Toni

    Just 24 hours to go and I’m beginning to doubt the ambitions of Wenger. At the end of the season Wenger hinted he wanted to conclude transfers before the beginning of the new season and if that’s the case then there are no more signings(http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-talking-to-definite-transfer-targets-).. I hope not!!! It might as well be the same old story.. “we were almost there and next season will always be better and the players improved compared to the previous season”..

    It is very obvious to everyone that the defense and keeper positions are our weak links which our opponents have exploited. How do you explain releasing 3 defenders..oops 2 and half defenders and bringing in only one defender. How do you explain not taking the chance of getting a more reliable keeper than the present crop.

    If these areas are not sorted believe me we will not get a shot at winning PL not to talk of CL. I’m trying to be optimistic but what happens if TV or LK gets injured what position does it leave us. I’m not saying if we buy more experienced defenders and keeper that we are certain of trophies but it adds positively to the psyche of coaches, manager, players and even the fans and also sends shivers to the spines of our opponents that we mean serious business.

    Wenger should please do something this season.. I plead and rest my case…..Let the games begin

  • Berth

    I think we talk too much as fans. We can all show we are in control by doing a Gunner army match – Am inviting u dev and my co WOA members.

  • dean

    Just looked at Arsenal.com and it seems we now have 2 fit centre halves, dju injured again! Song still injured!. We are now seriously short not to mention the GK situation. Fab has to play its a simple as that as the possibilty of frimpong and wilshire starting at anfield is frightning. If someone offered a draw now id snatch your hand off as it looks bleak at the moment, any thoughts…?

  • theusualsuspect

    I have drafted up petition which is to be posted soon to the idiotic Board. I also hope that maybe events between now and September 1st will either eliminate of need altogether or narrow the focus at least of the document. Any constructive comments and advice are welcome.We, the signers of this petition come from many backgrounds and nations. The main thing we have in common is we are all Gooners and we all love Arsenal Football Club.And it is that love for our club and our appreciation for everything Arsenal has achieved and represented on and off the pitch that has led us to inquire as to the whether the club is still being led in the correct direction and in the right way since 2005, and in the way we have been assured the club was being led during this period.Most Arsenal supporters – many of those signing below included – have long and happily recognized that Arsenal Football Club is a business to its investors as well as a football club to its custodians – and a way of life to its supporters within the communities of Highbury and Islington and well beyond – and we have respected and admired the Club and the Board’s efforts to balance these varying aspects of Arsenal football Club and to do so in the right way for everyone concerned with the club and its success both on and off the pitch.However there is genuine concern that in more recent times the Board has forgotten its duty to respect and maintain that same balance to the detriment of the football club – and potentially the business as well – in pursuit of shorter-term or less-than-certain goals not in the interest of the football club but primarily and even solely of business shareholders. We are concerned by what we know is being done, more concerned by what we know is not being done and most concerned by what we don’t know is or is not being done, and that we have not been assured of why or how any of it may benefit Arsenal Football Club if at all at this point.We are also concerned that Arsenal Football Club may no longer be the first concern of the Directors at this point or has not been the past several years, and that this trend is continuing, and it is a trend we find very worrying for Arsenal now and in the years to come.It is with those concerns in mind that we seek genuine reassurances that the best interests of Arsenal Football Club short and long-term are being served by the Arsenal Board currently. We seek more than minimally partial replies we have been offered in the past but real answers to real concerns we share that moved us to do this. We seek a greater sense of the actions that will actually accompany the words expressed, as we have found to our great concern that the actions simply have not matched to the words in recent years whether spoken by the Manager or a Board MemberWe simply seek real reassurances that the Board’s goal remains maintaining that balance now and in the future and that we will see actions confirming the commitment to doing so remains real. Assurances beyond what we have been told on several specific points relevant to the football club moving forward. These are as follows:- That the wage structure has not been deliberately restructured to prevent acquiring players of higher quality and development while claiming money is available who would require more competitive wages than this wage structure apparently allows for at this point- That the youth system under construction is meant first and foremost to benefit the football team on the pitch and not solely to increase the Club’s profits from the transfer market annually- That any or all of the well over 100 million in savings now in the bank is intended to go to the football team first and not to shareholders or to help finance selling the club- That the Board is fully behind the manager spending any part of that money as is best for the football team and only behind a manager ready and willing to spend any portion of it that way- That if that money is meant to be used for early debt repayment instead how using it that way is of primary benefit to the football club now and/or in the future and if it is not being used for either at this point why and how that benefits Arsenal Football Club in any way primarily on the pitch- That if the Club is being sold imminently that the Board would publicly commit to not selling to any individual or group of owners who would be using debt leverage to purchase Arsenal. Given the very real problems at Liverpool and the potential problems at Manchester United that have resulted from debt leverage at those clubs we would like to know that the Board consider selling to anyone else using debt leverage unacceptable altogetherWhile the Board or Manager has shared information which could be said by some to answer these concerns, in fact the information too often has too often been incomplete or contradictory, and has lead to confusion, doubt, disappointment and even distrust rising among the supporter base increasing with each passing year. We are certain you are aware of this and cannot be happy with it or how it leads to how Arsenal Football Club, the Board, or the Manager is perceived or portrayed publicly.With that in mind we are confident you would want to provide us these reassurances as we are eager to receive them and solidify the bond between the club and its supporters once more, and to show again that Arsenal indeed continues to do the right things the right way for the right reasons. We are most hopeful that you will be able and willing to furnish the answers we seek and eagerly await them, and thank you for reading this

  • theusualsuspect

    As fan we are not expecting record signing. What is the amount for record signing?

    If we used our head a little, every team in the world knew that Arsenal is desperate for a CB at least. If you approach them for players, of course they will ask for more and Arsenal in this situation should pay a little over the odds.

    Correct me if Iam wrong, you are saying that Arsenal should only buy player at bargain price ort at valuation and nothing more. Then I can confirm that we are not be signing another CB during this transfger window.

  • vj

    does anyone know what arsene said in his interview today bout new signings

  • yemi

    @ Kodjo:
Not forgetting that KOS is untested in the premiership !!!

If we can’t get Hart, i’d rather we go for shwarzer. I don’t rate given that highly. 


@ theusualsuspect:
I hope you are wrong about the signings cos it will be a disaster. 

1 Tested CB, 1 untested CB, 1 Injury prone CB, 1 injured backup, 2 error prone GK’s, 2, inexperinced backup CB’s is not what we need at the moment and is not a good way to start the season !!! Just imagine if diaby breaks verminators leg in today or tommorrows training !!!

  • Gooner Get Ya

    @ theusualsuspect:
    What? If you are going to post so much text at least add returns to separate the paragraphs so it is easier to read.

    I understand some fans are not happy with the apparent lack of investment in the squad and wish to vent this towards the AFC board and hopefully you will get a response to your petition.

    However the fact remains that we still have considerable debt, which is managable, but still a big debt nonetheless. I have no doubt that we will recruit a GK in the transfer window (Swartzer has now officially handed in a transfer request) and maybe even a CB but if AW thinks promoting players from the youth will fill our gaps then I think we should trust his judgement…after all that is what the reserve team is for?

  • yemi

    On a seperate note, I find this interview very true !!! And It really makes sense↲
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  • Berth

    @ Gooner Get Ya : Trust whose judgement! You have to stop deceiving your self and be honest. How can you entrust your emotions, your betting money and all that follows the game to an inexperienced back-line? Men you have to grow up and be realistic.

    Personally it will be unfair to criticize Wenger until the end of the month, but in fairness to those being critical I think they all do have right to do so because we all know who we are dealing with and what he is capable of doing.

  • Kieran

    Man, you guys are crazy. Isn’t there a forum where you can huddle together wearing tin hats? All you ever do is moan, and call us deluded, and write big loads of waffle under the pretense of ‘a petition’. What you never do is back up your arguments with fact, or act reasonably when people disagree with you.

    A petition is supposed to show the support of a particular group for a single purpose or cause. That’s not a petition it’s a fucking contract! What on earth has the club being up for sale got to do with the lack of signing a center back? In fact what does it have to do with reality?!

    Here’s a petition:

    Dear Chaps,

    Please stop being so mental and just calm down. We the undersigned potlitefully request that you consider the fact that Arsenal FC simply do not care whether or not you think it is ‘ok’ to start the season with 3 CB’s as they are a football club and you’re just mentals on the internet.

    Yours,

    10 million signatures.

  • Kieran

    Berth wrote:

    @ Gooner Get Ya : Trust whose judgement! You have to stop deceiving your self and be honest. How can you entrust your emotions, your betting money and all that follows the game to an inexperienced back-line? Men you have to grow up and be realistic.

    Personally it will be unfair to criticize Wenger until the end of the month, but in fairness to those being critical I think they all do have right to do so because we all know who we are dealing with and what he is capable of doing.

    Berth, you still haven’t managed to name a single CB who is
    a) Available
    b) Wants to come to Arsenal
    c) Is old enough to be as experienced as you want
    d) Is young enough to ensure he plays for a while and is quick and fit
    e) Is not injury prone
    f) will not cost stupid money

    More importantly you’re talking about Wenger “we all know who we are dealing with and what he is capable of doing” like he’s a rapist. The man has bought us 2 doubles, AND AN UNBEATEN SEASON. Seriously, grow up and learn some respect.

  • Gooner Get Ya

    @ Berth:
    You need to have more faith in our players!! You act like we are down in mid table before we have even started the EPL. In fact the transfer window is still open and maybe we will sign another CB. We will definately have a new GK by the end of next week, that I am certain.

    The fact that AW has promoted 4 or 5 players from the reserves, suggests that he is using our youth rather than spending money on transfers. I for one would like one more established CB don’t get me wrong but we do need to start using the youth system otherwise it is pointless even having an academy.

    For me this season will define which direction AFC will go. If it ends in us finishing outside the top 4 then things need to happen at the top.

  • Gooner Get Ya

    Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has revealed he is on the brink of signing a new contract at the Emirates Stadium.

    The 60-year-old Frenchman’s deal is due to run out at the end of this term, but he says a new contract is on the table ahead of the start of the new season.

    “I have to show how much I believe in this team by showing my commitment,” said Wenger. “My situation will be sorted out very soon.”

    Wenger has won 11 trophies in 13 years, but nothing since the FA Cup in 2005.

    Arsenal begin their campaign for a first Premier League title since 2004 with a tricky trip away to Roy Hodgson’s Liverpool on Sunday.

    Wenger added: “I believe my commitment to the club has nothing do with the speculation of how the season would go, because that would be unfair.

    “If I do not do well, and one day the club is not happy with me I can completely understand that I do not stay here any more. But I believe we will do well.”

    Wenger joined Arsenal in September 1996 and set about revolutionising the north London outfit, winning the league in 1998, 2002 and 2004, the FA Cup in 1998, 2002, 2003 and 2005 and reaching the Champions League and Uefa Cup finals.
    However, since the club moved to their new Emirates Stadium home, Wenger’s young side have been unable to supply any more silverware and finished 11 points behind Premier League winners Chelsea last season.

    “What will be success is to improve from last year, which is to win the league – that is the only benchmark,” declared the Gunners boss.

    “You cannot finish third and then say for the season after, you want to finish behind that. We are a young side and the improvement is natural – the ambition is there, we are hungry for success.

    “We know people want more from us and we are ready to give more, but success is to win the league.”
    Wenger will be looking to captain Cesc Fabregas to provide the on-field inspiration for his team after the World Cup-winning Spanish midfielder pledged his future to the club despite a summer of speculation linking him with his former side Barcelona.

    “Cesc has been very good, despite all of that story, and his love for the club was never under threat,” said Wenger.

    “You could understand he was torn between Barcelona and staying here, but he really deeply loves the club. His attitude has been completely spot-on.

    “I tried very hard to show him how much I want him to stay and of course you never completely know the outcome, but my resolution and determination was always very strong to keep him – and it was never a question of money.”

  • Berth

    Before the start of any season we all say the same about definiteness and defining.
    @ Kieran: “We all know who we are dealing with”, not in the contest of a rapist or a double winning coach but in the aspect of deception. I mean since the real men of quality left,(Viera, Henry,Dennis and co) all we have heard is deception, cover ups and lies and its not good for anyone. A little bit of honesty will do us some good in this club.

    @ Gooner Get Ya: We all do have faith with some of our players. But you don’t expect me to have faith in a midfield where frimong and Wilshere will possibly feature in our starting eleven due to injuries. May be we do underestimate the K guy that pairs with Verm, but besides the K guy and V, can you really trust Djourour’s injury or the competency of our 4th defender – you all don’t need a football degree to understand this. And tell me why I would trust Flapianski or Alumni as our no 1 – it doesn’t just work for me.

  • Kieran

    Berth wrote:

    Before the start of any season we all say the same about definiteness and defining.
    @ Kieran: “We all know who we are dealing with”, not in the contest of a rapist or a double winning coach but in the aspect of deception. I mean since the real men of quality left,(Viera, Henry,Dennis and co) all we have heard is deception, cover ups and lies and its not good for anyone. A little bit of honesty will do us some good in this club.

    @ Gooner Get Ya: We all do have faith with some of our players. But you don’t expect me to have faith in a midfield where frimong and Wilshere will possibly feature in our starting eleven due to injuries. May be we do underestimate the K guy that pairs with Verm, but besides the K guy and V, can you really trust Djourour’s injury or the competency of our 4th defender – you all don’t need a football degree to understand this. And tell me why I would trust Flapianski or Alumni as our no 1 – it doesn’t just work for me.

    Sorry, I’m desperately trying to work out why Arsene Wenger owes you anything, including honesty.

    Aside from that, I’m trying to work out when Arsene Wenger has ever lied or deceived anybody? Seriously dude, back it up with facts or don’t spout it. It’s incredibly disrespectful.

  • Gooner Get Ya

    @ Berth:
    Most teams are in the same boat. Apart from Man City and Chelsea to a certain extent resort to the younger inexperienced players when a 1st team player is injured. How many of us had heard of Gibson, Evans, Welbeck, Gosling, Rodwell, Sturridge to name a few. Before last season these players were unknown entities but will definately make appearances for their club in times of injury.

    No one has really used the transfer window to buy big this season apart from Man City.

    Arsenal

    IN
    Laurent Koscielny
    Marouane Chamakh
    Kyle Ebecillo
    Phil Roberts

    OUT

    Eduardo
    Sol Campbell
    Fran Merida
    Philippe Senderos
    Mikael Silvestre

    Man U

    IN

    Chris Smalling
    Bebe
    Javier “Chicharito” Hernandez
    Marnick Vermijl

    OUT

    Ben Foster
    Craig Cathcart
    Zoran Tosic

    Chelsea

    IN

    Ramires (Pending work Permit)
    Yossi Benayoun
    Matej Delac
    Tomas Kalac

    OUT

    Ricardo Carvalho
    Miroslav Stoch
    Scott Sinclair
    Deco
    Michael Ballack
    Juliano Belletti
    Joe Cole

    Liverpool

    IN

    Christian Poulsen
    Danny Wilson
    Jonjo Shelvey
    Joe Cole
    Milan Jovanović

    OUT

    Yossi Benayoun
    Albert Riera
    Mikel San Jose

    Man City

    IN

    Yaya Toure
    David Silva
    Aleksandar Kolarov
    Jerome Boateng
    Alex Henshall
    Albert Rusnak

    OUT

    Paul Marshall
    Filip Mentel
    Andrew Mitchell
    Martin Petrov
    Jack Redshaw
    Tobias Johansen
    Javier Garrido
    Valeri Bojinov
    Robert Mak
    Sylvinho

    Tottenham

    IN

    Sandro Raniere

    OUT

    Adel Taarabt
    Lee Butcher
    Sam Cox
    Dorian Dervite

  • mesol

    I prefer Almunia than Schwarzer..I think hes got what it takes to be a keeper..not the greatest, but among good keeper in england indeed..One thing..If we lose why slam a keeper..why dont slam striker who didnt score…like bendtner aka god son of oldman wenger..if he scored we didnt lose, rite?

  • mesol

    And one thing, if we failed to win silverware again this year..its great actually..because wenger is build the team for future..next season, fabregas goes to barca..and he will find a kind to replace him..and here it goes again..team for future..maybe only our great grand son will see a silverware won by arsenal..Great Vision of oldman…Bravo

  • Kodjo

    For the life of me i dont think Wenger is that crazy to go into the season with just 2 CB’s cos i dont classify JD as ready bcos of his injury problems….

    If that happens i suspect Wenger is having difficulties in the transfet market ….probably being asked to pay stupid money …like the case of Fulham asking for 4 million for a 37 yr old keeper….i dont subscribe to paying that kind of money at Shwarzers age.

    The other contenders for the title have at least tried and tested CB’s to start games….on that front we are on the back foot

    As much as we are all apprenhensive lets exercise patience….and see what happens in the next couple of weeks.

  • Berth

    @ kodjo: Patience is key but for how long.

    @ Kieran: I won’t have to explain myself very much until the last part of the season when every starts happening.

  • edison

    Enough of the bullshit lads. Lets just see what happens ….

    We will have (at the very least) a comfortably STRONG team against liverpool. Kuyt is in the liverpool squad, so i expect VAN PERSIE to be involved too on sunday.

    Amongst speculation that liverpool have strengthened, i think we will win with little problem.

  • Josiah

    Turns out diaby is fully available, denilson and song may travel, aswell as cesc and RVP, all of a sudden it has become clear that we should have a good strong side to face Liverpool :)

  • vj

    my prediction for team
    Almunia
    SAGNA Koscilny Vermaelen Clichy

    Nasri Diaby Song/Frimpong

    Walcott Chamakh Arshavin

    with cesc and RVP to come on if we need them to

  • Bonathan

    Well, schwartzer seems to be doing everything he can do to get the move anyway. If we do sign him I hope we still keep hold of almunia. rumours that villa are in for him

    In my eyes, the main problem with goalkeepers last year wasn’t our 1st choice, it was when almunia was injured. Granted, almunia didn’t have his best of seasons, but the main problems cae in the run that fabianski played. Buying schwartzer and selling almunia would therefore put us in no better situation unless fabianski (if he is to be our 2nd choice) ups his game.

    The rumours of shay given are still floating around. Now this signing would excite me. Obviously not everyone would agree who’s best but what does everyone think? My personal opinion is that Given is a class above both almunia and schwartzer. If i had to rate them in order of how good i thought they were, it would be:

    1. Given
    2. Almunia
    3. Schwartzer
    4. Fabianski

    What does everyone else think?

  • mesol

    agree with you Bonathan

  • Berth

    There is no way in a million years I would rate Alumnia above Schwartzer.

  • Berth

    @ Bonathan: I understand your rating Alumnia above Schwartzer – I would like to know your rating criteria

  • Bonathan

    i rate them based upon their goalkeeping skills.

  • edison

    schwartzer is more talented and experienced than almunia. end of.

  • Bonathan

    Rumours are that given will start for city this wkend so that’l be him out of the picture anyway if he does.

    Yeah, looks like schwartzer is gonna be the man. THere’s no doubting he has plenty of experience. been around the premiership for plenty of years and being in his late 30s, he shouldn’t be around that long that he would disrupt the progress of our young keepers. In fact, he should be a good mentor for them.

    I would still like to see almunia stay. He’d be a great person to come in with his experience should we have an injury or whatever. This would also give us the opportunity to send 2 of our young keepers out on loan. I think fabianski in particular would greatly benefit from this.

    I’d be happy with this signing as long as almunia stays.

  • Berth

    As long as Alumnia stays. That is it bro.

  • Pete

    Joe Hart starts for City against Spurs.

    Here’s hoping Shay Given sticks to his guns and asks to leave.

    Also, Wenger signs new contract keeping him at the club til 2014.

  • Bonathan

    Wow

    I thought mancini would pick given initially. Looks like he will be on his way then. Rumour has it though that they will not sell to rivals which is a real shame for Given himself. I’m sure he’d much rather play for us than up in scotland which is what’s being rumoured.

  • jeffvip

    Joe Hart is crazily amazing… 3 world class save inside 1st 20 minutes, even Given nodded to his excellence.. say good bye to citeh, given.

  • Tm17

    Ha Man city look like a joke :)
    The earlier we play them the better!!!!

  • Pete

    Even more interestingly, Mark Schwarzer doesn’t start for Fulham today either.

  • edison

    Come monday, i reckon arsenal will be strengthening a WINNING combination of a team with a No.1 Keeper.

    after a comfortable victory tomorrow of course. Given would be a dream, but i cant see him coming to arsenal, even on loan. Schwarzer looks inevitable.

  • Mo

    Schwartzer n one more defender n well be serious serious contenders for the premiership and champions league….

  • andrew

    good to see citeh and sp*rs fail to score.

  • jeffvip

    seems like Wenger is not goin to buy… From what he said in Arsenal.com, the keeper play today will be the new No.1

  • Bonathan

    Hmm, interesting quote there from wenger. From that you’d think he wasn’t in the market for one but i guess you never know.

    Couple of young centre backs linked with us lately which, if true, would suggest that wenger is maybe just looking to plug the numbers up back there rather than getting somebody to stiffen the competition for places up a bit. Of course it could just be paper talk.

    I think it was Sakho and jones (blackburn) who were mentioned. Of course, there’s probably been about 30 centre backs linked with us this summer!

  • Bonathan

    Actually, this sakho seems to be quite established in the game despite being only 20. i think we’ve been linked with him a few times.

  • edison

    yeah PSG captain, was good in emirates cup last year. doubt we will move for him though. they would want far too much € for their captain

  • Sam

    I’m really desperate & need help. Stupid Canadian sports TV is showing FiSHING!!! Please send updates of the game. Can’t believe I’m missing the first game of the season.

  • Tm17

    I’m so positive and excited !!!!!!!!!!!!
    Finally the season is upon us !!!!!

  • manoo

    Cant believe almuina has been given the armband. ridiculous. Does that mean hes not leaving? What a shame. Why is Van Persie not playing when Kuyt is?

  • Mo

    Hahaaaaa Joe Cole sentt offfff…come onnn 3-0

  • vj

    interesting game, arsenal for sure the more comfortable koscielny looked solid till cole….. still liverpool down to ten men and arsenal have one CB left in the squad! Nordveit is not on the bench so song will replace him. Im worried even though liverpool have had a man sent off, koscielny was doing a fine job handling kuyt jovanovic and cole, song is not fit and doesn’t really play CB for arsenal, still we have the impetus with fabregas and van persie also to come on, if we can hold on we could grab this one

  • Tm17

    That’s just faith telling wenger to buy a cb
    Koscielny going on a stretcher
    Our defence not too bad but really dodgy in the
    air
    Really feeling the absence of fab and song

  • manoo

    Based on 2day, wilshere is not ready for these games yet, he was definately at fault for the goal, he on a yellow,FFS WAKE UPPPPP

  • yemi

    one man down, one goal up!

  • Tm17

    Chamackkkk!!!!’

  • manoo

    Why has he been sent off. Ridiculuos!!!!!!!!

  • vj

    poor game from arsenal i think, we lacked impetus throughout the game, just shows how much we need players like cesc and rvp. rosicky doid really well i thought, he is a great crosser of the ball. Chamakh provided us with the presence we needed. Nasri did well always looking to go forward, he played really well. Eboue was solid, Arshavin was missing though to his credit always double marked by Johnson and carragher, Wilshere played well i thought, still obviously isnt quitee ready but a good performance. Diaby shit. Walcott was Walcott, some good moments but didnt really get into the game. The back five was hasent changed, Sagna very solid, clichy good but again occasionaly beaten, vermaelen awesome. Almunia just showed how much we need a new GK lots of flappy hands fails to clear the ball several times but again shows that he can pull off some great saves. And Koscielny had a very good debut, consantly pressing the strikers, did well against ngog and torres and gerrard, good signing, but now hes gone, we need reinforcements, wenger a new GK and CB needed by next weekend

    lads 1-1 late goal again for us, arsenal’s title bid has begun

  • http://www.facebook.com/thomascheah Gunner support

    This team will not win the EPL. Plz get solid defender & finisher.
    Arsenal needs the firepower. It’s obvious 11 with 9 men.. Sad but true :(

  • Gooner Get Ya

    Kuyt played every game at the world cup and played from the start, cesc played about 20mins at the world cup but needed a rest???

  • vj

    I agree Gooner get ya but when we look at it RVP and cesc are so vital to us, no risk should be taken, and a one game miss for an extended run is worth it, once we remove Almunia Diaby Wilshere and Eboue for the team and replace them with Swharzer / Given, Song and Fabregas and RVP we have a really good team, not to mention a CB for sure

  • Mehedi

    Guys answer pls : how long will Koscielny be out?

  • Pete

    @ vj:

    I thought Diaby did pretty well actually mate. Held the ball up very nicely on more than one occasion, and his dribbling and passing for the most past was pretty good. Just hope he can keep it up :P

    Koscielny and Chamakh did well too. There aren’t many games tougher than Liverpool away, so for them to play there on their debut, I thought they did pretty good and they both looked the part. Koscielny dealt well with the ‘pool fans hostility after the Joe Cole tackle, and I was quite surprised actually by the level of his composure and positioning throughout much of the game. Cant help feel though that against Drogba or Rooney, or a really hostile away game like Stoke or Blackburn, he could struggle.

    You have to consider too that this game we didn’t start three of out best players in Cesc, RvP and Song, yet we gave Liverpool a real problem in their home ground. They were actually much harder to play against once they were down to 10 men. Joe Cole didn’t have a great game, but I was impressed by Jovanovic.

    On the whole I think everyone did well. The only player I was disappointed in was Arshavin, but as VJ said, he had Johnson and Carragher doubling on him. But had the Russian received the pass from our defence and not let it roll by, Liverpool wouldn’t have played in Ngog and they wouldn’t have scored.

    Although Almunia made some pretty good saves, there were far too many instances where he was caught flapping. This may well end up being his last game starting for Arsenal and I hope that by this time next week we’ll have a new keeper.

  • Gooner Get Ya

    Two yellows means 1 game ban.

  • Pete

    @ Mehedi:

    This is what Wenger said in and interview after the game:

    On if he saw Joe Cole’s tackle on Laurent Koscielny…

    “No, it was completely in the corner and from the bench you couldn’t see. Joe Cole is usually a fair player, he is not one I would like to record as a guy who tries to hurt people, it is not his style. Maybe he was a bit rash in his tackle but he kicked Koscielny, accidently, well. He had a big knock on his shin and fortunately his shin pad protected him well. We were scared that it was broken. When they moved him off the pitch the physio told me it could be broken.”

    He came out and played 2nd half so he should be ok, but the Sky Sports commentators said Koscielny had an “egg sized lump” on his shin. Must have been painful, and it was worrying to see him stretchered off when it happened, but he sounds fine and should be ok.

  • edison

    3 match ban for Kosielny? who by the way had a brilliant game otherwise. Ngog’s deliberate handball and he doesnt get booked for it , and Kosielny does – Thats the premier league for you though.

    We were easily beaten today, thanks to reina for getting us a point.

    I havent seen arsenal play such a heavy longball/crossing game in quite some time. where was the quick accurate passing? the creativity ? the movement ? Liverpool proved difficult to break down in the final third. Even with 10 men and at one point NINE, we couldnt find a way through.

    Attitudes of players seemed disrupted also – Our liverpool star man Arshavin looked tiresome and lacking creativity (as he has done all preseason). I think Vermaelen had more shots than him.

  • Pete

    @ Gooner Get Ya:

    I’m sure Arsenal might contest that econd yellow with the FA, as all the commentators seemed to agree it was more ball-to-hand. But if not then maybe that’ll encourage the club to sign another defender :P

  • Mehedi

    “Two yellows means 1 game ban.” thats really good
    because Kosielny looked OK to me
    but we still need a back up
    right now we have three defender so we need at least four right?
    and even though chamakh scored the goal his touch looked weak.
    I mean if we play 4 4 3 i reckon van persie will start every match
    I don’t see us playing 4 4 2 now

  • Bonathan

    Not a bad result. Lucky to get it but a point away to liverpool ain’t bad. Yeah, i don’t think wenger will have been too encouraged by almuni’s performance. Probably should have saved the goal and was flapping at a few crosses.

    Kos’s suspension and djourou’s injury after just 1 game just underline the fact that we need another CB. Unless djourou makes a speedy recovery, already we will need to draft in song at CB, and we could do with him in midfield.

    the whole world knows what we need, and we all new at the start of the window. Time is tight but i get the feeling wenger might come through on this one.

  • Berth

    At least we got a draw today, an own goal. That been said I would want to pretend that Arsenal did not play today, what we had on the pitch was Arse. Nasri was poor and held on to the ball for so long, same as Diaby. The only positive was Rosicky, Walcott, Koscienly and the fact that Alumnia leaved up to the expectation as hoped (Spain is not far off). I do hope we improve on this performance.

    One more thing; Wenger did so well to start Wilshere away from home against a top four contender; I thought the gaffer must have had weed or something close to it.

  • Kieran

    Berth, did you watch the game at all? Nasri was our best player for long periods of the game.

  • theusualsuspect

    Well a mixed game really. Outplayed Liverpool for most of the it, but we had no cutting edge in front of goal, can’t remember us even having a shot in the first half. Was this down to tactics or basically our forward thinking players didn’t know what to do? Almunia looked as flappy as ever and Arshavin simply does not look interested in tracking back. Koscielny should not have been sent off, apart from that, he seemed quite steady. We desperately need a player to break up the play and a new keeper. We had them over a barrel for the last 15 mins, so it didn’t really surprise me that Reina dropped a clanger. Top 4 for us?? Wenger needs to up it and break the bank for some signings.

  • Berth

    Kieran: Nasri was poor. I would want you to compare him to Fab, Ramsey, rosicky or Hleb on that cmf position.

    Nasri did not make any real incisive pass the way u see Fab or Hleb do and he barley moved or pushed forward fast enough like Ramsey or Rosicky – he was basically moving like a snail, turning the ball side ways, cutting people without purpose. He was just not good at all. Just relax Kieran, when Fab or Ramsey plays in that position you will understand what I mean.

  • walter

    When the fixture list comes out in June every team is anxious to know what the first match will be. An easy home game against a new team? Going away to a team that should be struggling to avoid relegation? But one can be sure that one thing most teams don’t like to see is a trip away to one of the top 4 teams. But for Arsenal it was no home game against a new team, no away game to a possible struggling side. No it was being thrown in the deep end and make sure you can swim: an away trip to Liverpool.

    There are easier things to start the new season. With the world cup we had quite a few players missing and with our early injury crisis we also had some players who hardly have played in preseason. Cesc came back with a soar throat from Mexico and wasn’t even on the bench but Robin Van Persie was. Together with Song who also hasn’t played for us in preseason.

    Liverpool with their new manager wanting to show he can do better than Benitez. Now we can all not agree with the spending of the money from Benitez but he played normally some kind of attacking football at home with great passion, the way they like it up there. Hodgson was not a bad manager at Fulham but when I saw them play against us in the past seasons they always played a very defensive line with always some 9 players behind the ball and one or 2 players who sometimes tried to start an attack. Let us say mostly mid table or lower table tactics, well against us anyway.

    After half an hour I was thinking: are we playing Fulham at Anfield? Because at that moment a statistic flashed on my screen telling me that we had some 3 or 4 shots on goal but at the other end of the statistics it said: Liverpool : 0 shots. Zero, nothing. I checked again and noticed that it really was Liverpool who was playing at home. If I remember right it took them another 6 or 7 minutes before the first attempt of Liverpool at our goal was seen and it was a shot very, very wide.

    So yes we were very on top of the game, had more possession and kept Liverpool away from our goal. Was this Anfield? It seemed so. The only thing that was missing for us was a goal. We had a couple of possibilities but Reina made a good save on a Vermaelen free kick to deny us an early goal. Right at the end of the first half Liverpool tried to attack themselves which resulted in Joe Cole being a true red. If Atkinson is drawing the line there, fine with me. Intent or not, I think Cole went in with both feet to Koscielny. Always a foul, and always at least a yellow card. The ref did what more refs should do: show a red card until these dangerous tackles stop.

    The reason why he gave the red card was that Cole went in a frontal way in to Koscielny. If it would have been a sideways tackle and he would have hit him he would have come away with a yellow card but I told you on a few occasions that a frontal tackle is the most dangerous tackle there is and should be out of the game.

    The second half started with two shocks: Koscielny back on the field and Ngog scoring a goal. We lost the ball where we shouldn’t have lost it. Wilshere and Nasri had a misunderstanding and Ngog could score. Those things happen. Part of learning I guess for Jack who showed that he can become a great player but also that he has to learn a few things. But I think I will let him have the time to learn it as he will be a great player for us. I think it was great from our manager to go for him and let him start at Liverpool. It was a big example on how Wenger gives a young player the chance to prove himself.

    After the goal we lost our composure a bit. But with bringing on Walcott and Rosicky we turned it around. Rosicky had a great half our and showed what a great player he can be. If he hadn’t lost some 2 years with injury we maybe would have more trophies as he is a player who can play many positions and is experienced enough. It was no coincidence that it was from his cross that Chamakh showed that we have other options now. All he needed was one great cross to give us a goal. Yes I know it was Flapreina who pushed the ball in his own net but it was Chamakh that beat Reishit for the cross and made him look poor.

    Could you imagine if it was Arsenal that had conceded such a goal? Some would have asked the head of Wenger, of our goalkeeper, tell that Wenger hasn’t got a clue, tell that the board are filling their pockets, tell that well you know the usual stuff when a keeper makes a mistake. But now we have a laugh with Reina and find it great. And that is the difference with our keeper making a mistake and the other. When we suffer the mistake it hurts so much we can lose perspective. But those who have seen the goals in the EPL this weekend will agree with me when I say that a lot of the goals were down to very bad mistakes by the keepers.

    So saying that our keeper(s) is(are) the worst in the EPL is very hard on them.

    By the way did I mention the fact that we need another centre back? I just did so if you comment by saying that we don’t want us to sign another defender only prove that they don’t read the article, or at least not until the end.

    If you look at some match statistics we won them all. We had more shots on goal, in fact we had the double of the shots that Liverpool had and it really was them that played at home. We had more corners, we had more of the ball, we had more territorial advantage as we played mostly in their half. Yes, we played away from home and at Anfield but the way they defended in 75 minutes it looked as if they was a scared team and didn’t dare to come at us.

    So the first game is done. One point at Anfield is always a good point. I still feel that we should have won the game. We were the better team but Liverpool defended in their Fulham style and we have struggled against the Hodgson tactics in the past.

    Can’t wait till next Saturday when the Emirates becomes more a bit Highbury but bigger. The North Bank, the Clock End back with their old names. Will be great to see the Highbury history getting a new live in the Emirates.

  • Gooner Get Ya

    A draw away to Liverpool is a decent result. Ngog’s goal although given away initially by Wilshire/Nasri, should have been saved as the GK should never get beaten at the front post….and did you see the corner Almunia came out for and completely missed and in fact ended up knocking over Vermaelen in the process…what a clown this guy can be.

    The talk is that we are still trying to land Swartzer and Mark Hughes has said that he will let him go, but only if we offer more than 2m. If Swartzer does come to us then they will possible land Shay Given as Man City will not sell him to us!!! What a crock of s**t. We sold them Toure and Ade but they will not repay the gesture…tossers!!

  • walter

    Nasri is involved in everything at the moment. Solid at the back. Wilshere playing well. Diaby needs to get involved more.

  • Nick

    Interesting game and at least we salvaged a point. If we don’t go after Given right now then we better be worried about the season. I’d still have Schwarzer but Given is much better imo.

    Had it not been for the double marking I would’ve been more upset with Arshavin as he seemed non-existant in the match. Nasri showed some brilliance and Theo did well. Wilshire played well considering the environment and stress of a big 4 match away. Chamakh has continued to impress me every time I see him. I really like his vision and creativity and that he can actually use his feet unlike Bendtner.

    Will definitely be nice to have our preferred starting 11 back.

    I too am confused as to how Almunia didn’t stop Ngog’s goal. I was very well hit but I think another keeper might have saved that one.

  • yemi

    I watched only the 2nd half of the game and i saw that were were not as fluid as we usually are. Wilshire put in some bad tackles, is that what he learnt at the reebok ? 
↲Arshavin was tired due to the midweek international break (i guess) and was not as sharp. 
KOs had a good first baptism but it seems as iff he closes down on players far better than verm. If verm had close marked ngod, that goal wouldnt have been scored. There way too much space. The GK too did not guard his well enough. We al saw what hart did against spurs.

↲We really missed song and cesc.

↲On another note, if KOS had been injured in that game and djourou/song are not fit for next match or even the present situation where KOS has to miss amtch, who comes in ? We do NEED a CB and a GK in my opinion.
↲On final note, Dev, Debs, Kieran, Jat and will, why was there no pre and post match reviews? no posts at all !!! You guys all on vacation at the same time ?

  • Gooner Get Ya

    What I don’t get is if Arshavin is tired why not rest him like we did with RVP and Cesc…my only conclusion is that he is not tired but in fact just a lazy bastard!!!

    Did any one notice in the second half when he was just yards from the ball he gestured to the full back to come and get it and Liverpool broke away with it…what a dick he can be sometimes.

    Who is going to play as CB for our next game as we have no players. Kos is suspended, JD is injured, Song is injured. is HN going to get a game already?

  • dean

    Wenger will play in defence

  • jeffvip

    @dean,

    absolutely, AW is once a defender, maybe this is one of his plan

  • vj

    Apparantly Wenger now going for given, according to old teammate of given, he said that he has spoken to him “For me there is no doubt that he could be at Arsenal” I would love to have Given, He is quality, still would like a CB though this week, rather than a GK

  • vj

    Honestly guys i was really impressed with Rosicky, he himself said last season that it would take him a while to get over his injury, this season he looks fresh and he looks really good, much like his old self, a big positive is that he is a great crosser, I think he will be be vying with Walcott and Arshavin for that wide position.

    As for Nasri mixed reviews above. He did well but he was to direct I thought, one of the best things about cesc is that he knows when to go at the defense, and when to go wide. Nasri was to direct but overall he was okay, Liverpool did defend really well

  • Pete

    @ vj:

    Just found an article about it. Thanks mate.

    Shay Given’s former teammate Warren Barton believes he could ask for a move to Arsenal if he stays on the bench at Man City.

    Roberto Mancini named Joe Hart in goal at White Hart Lane on Saturday and after the England keeper’s performance, Given looks set to be out in the cold.

    Having previously laid his cards down by telling Mancini he would look for a move if not installed as the number one, the ball is in Given’s court and Barton believes he will act.

    Barton told Fox Soccer in the USA when asked if Shay Given will leave the club: “I do believe so. I spoke to him and I wished him well. He is one of my old colleagues and he wasn’t sure he was going to start. He is 34 years of age and an excellent professional, and an excellent goalkeeper as well.

    “For me there is no doubt he could be at Arsenal football club.”

    Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger said he had no news of an impending move for a keeper when asked about it on Sunday.

  • Bonathan

    exciting stuff. looks like if we can’t get given we shold be able to get schwartzer. What about the CB though? it has gone very quiet on that front. extremely quiet. Any rumours?

    bring back senderos!