Oooo to be a Gooner… as Rooney admits to diving…

As I catch up on all things Arsenal, I find myself chanting the song that I love so much, the song that makes me proud….

Oooo to, oooo to be, Oooo to, oooo to be, Oooo to, oooo to be, oooo to be a Gooner!

There is something very special about being a Gooner. There is a deep sense of belonging and a deep sense of “my club”. I would hate to be a fan of another club as I could never support the likes of Liverpool, United, Chelsea or Sp*rs. Down at the Emirates, we are no angels and I won’t try to say we are for one minute. But we are an honest bunch of supporters. We follow our team through thick and think. We had 59,000 people at the Arsenal vs Stoke last game of the season, 57,000 for a Carling Cup game against Sheffield United and at the same time you look at the likes of Chelsea whose fans barely appeared for a Champions League game at home to Rosenberg, 22,000, which is only 48% of their capacity turned up.

We manage our money the proper way. We are in the middle of a transition period where we’re paying off the stadium. We’ve had to sell Henry, Adebayor, Hleb and Toure in recent years to earn additional money to service our debt. Meanwhile, teams like Chelsea, Liverpool and United have only increased their debts in recent times.

Arsene Wenger, in my opinion is one of the greatest managers around and the treatment of our manager is borderline scandalous.

The good old guys at the Mirror reported this after the game:

The sending off of Arsene Wenger at Old Trafford for kicking a water bottle in frustration at seeing Arsenal outplay Manchester United and still lose was a joke. But what certainly wasn’t funny were the chants that accompanied Wenger’s comical retreat to the stands. You could hear them on Sky. We all know what the chant is but I can’t – and won’t – repeat it here because it’s libelous, wrong and deeply disrespectful to one of the all-time great managers. But if you go on to Amazon you can buy that song on a CD of football songs. Play.com had the good sense to take it down after complaints. Wenger, despite everything, stood there among the United fans and smiled. What an incredible man. I remember, though, Sir Alex Ferguson complaining bitterly about security and stewarding at the Emirates a couple of seasons back when he felt Arsenal fans were getting too close to his bench. But going back to those chants, how is it that United aren’t taking action? How is it that Tottenham fans are allowed to routinely sing those sick songs during every north London derby? You can’t make racist chants. People get arrested for those sort of chants and, in my view, should not only be banned from that ground but get a lifetime ban from every ground in the country.

Amazon, as you may or may not have known, have been selling these sick songs on their website and news coming in today is that they’ve finalled agreed to remove it. But why on earth was it on there in the first place…

Rooney admits to diving… but he definitely won’t get punished…

And just a little something to bemuse you… a few quotes from Wayne Rooney where he admits diving, says that he’ll take it

“If the referee gives a penalty there is nothing you can do. If they want to take punishment further it is down to UEFA and the people who run the game. As players you just want to play. Diving has been in the game for years. Probably the coverage the game gets now, with all the cameras around, it gets highlighted a bit more. But it hasn’t got any worse.”

Well, just because it’s been around for years, doesn’t mean you should do it – Eduardo’s penalty claim wasn’t any more of a dive then Rooney (although this is debatable)… and Eduardo receives a 2 match ban. What do you normally get in a game? A yellow card, right? So why has Eduardo received a 2 match ban? It makes no sense in any way shape or form. How many yellows will it take to get a one match ban? Three I think – so this amounts to 6 yellow cards – someone tell me the logic here?

This arbitrary decision has taken the gusto out of the player, with International team mate Olic revealing:

“Eduardo is very upset and annoyed by the charge. Normally he is a very happy character but he’s not like that at the moment. I think the punishment is very harsh and difficult to accept. Eduardo is a very honest and good professional. He wouldn’t try to trick a referee.”

The club have also now received the detail of the “reasoning” of the charge from UEFA and have released a statement saying that they will of course appeal:

“The club is in receipt of UEFA’s reasoned decision in relation to the charge against Eduardo. We strongly believe that the decision taken is deeply flawed and not based on any forensic review of the video evidence available. There are obvious errors and inconsistencies in UEFA’s judgment and we intend to appeal.”

Something to smile about

And a little something to smile about is the fact that Chelsea have been fined and also given a transfer ban for the next two transfer windows. The is due to the illegal signing of the player Kakuta from Lens. Chelsea were on a tranfer disciplinary tightrope after twice being warned by UEFA and the FA in previous transfer issues over Ashley Cole and John Obi Mikel. And it looks like they have finally been awarded what’s been coming to them. They will appeal of course, but a little something that not targeted at the Arsenal… for once… puts a smile on my face.

  • jeffvip

    I have a sense that Eduardo punishment will only happened once and thats is to Eduardo because I believe UEFA will not want to challenge the referees again.

  • wreckedsoul

    i can’t wait to see champs league gets underway, so i can finally see whether or not UEFA is taking a dive issue very seriously. will there be any player get punishment for a dive? i don’t know, but now UEFA is caught in an awkward position in which they can no longer laugh off any appeal from clubs regarding an attempt to ‘trick’ the referee; it also means, we can now challenge referee’s decisions after the game by bring it forward to the footballing body.

    i agree with you that AW is the greatest manager in premier league at present time and seeing him being chanted with a disgrace song a human can ever heard was an awful thing to experience. low life indeed. my old people say “patience will bring prosperity” hope this is the truth

  • Berth

    Good log dev; love the styling.

  • Pissed off

    * blog

  • Pete

    Some papers are reporting that Manchester United could be the next big club to be punished with a transfer ban if they are found guilty of an illegal approach to Le Harve youngster Paul Pogba. :-)

    So United and Chelsea virtually steal these young players away from their clubs, yet they have audacity to call Wenger a “child-molester”! Just goes to show the type of supporters these clubs attract, classless, arrogant and hypocritical.

    Regarding Rooney, I know all this penalty talk is dragging on a little, but I did feel his penalty was more legit than Eduardo’s to begin with, mainly due to the contact between him and Almunia. But when you look at it with hindsight, for someone who is regarded as a physically strong and powerful striker, his legs did seem to give up very easily at the slightest contact. We’ve all seen Rooney take on much stronger challenges than that and come out best, so him being impeeded by such light contact from our keeper is a little hard to swallow.

    The thing I’m concerned about the most is how Eduardo will be treated at the England v Croatia game at Wembley, because something tells me he’s going to come in for a really hard time in that game.

  • Nicky

    Have Amazon done the right thing now and pulled the offensive download?

  • Pete

    In fairness to United, they have come out and publicly condemned the chant aimed at Wenger. Now if only they could do something to stop Patrice Evra being such a prat! lol

  • Pete

    Was reading another blog and it had a few interesting things to say.

    The Times has ‘confirmed that there are no plans to institute a regular programme of video referral for matches under its jurisdiction or issue an anti-diving directive’.

    Football365 is of the opinion that the pursuit and persecution of the Brazilian player only happened because of the nationality of the opposing club he committed his dive against, supporting the view from Arsenal manager Arsène Wenger that there were “Scottish influences” in UEFA’s judgement. What Celtic, and the Scots within UEFA’s corridors of power fail to realise, is that Arsenal were already two away goals up on aggregate.

    The Guardian also reports that the article in which UEFA have used to charge Eduardo states that the offence should only be punishable with a caution, UEFA have taken the unprecedented step of banning the Croatian international for two matches, a similar punishment to which if he had received a red card. It writes: “Article 10 (1c), which was introduced by Uefa as a consequence of the furore that followed Rivaldo’s feigning antics when playing for Brazil in the 2002 World Cup, exists to punish the worst offenders, but there is no appetite at Uefa to mount a wholesale campaign against diving through the retrospective use of video technology. “Although Eduardo’s suspension is similar to that which might accompany a red card, Uefa will not now ask referees to send players off for such offences.”

    Hmm, so maybe UEFA are just making things up as they go along afterall. They’re as bad, if not worse than all the players, managers, clubs and match official who turn a blind eye to blatant cheating.

  • devday

    LOL Pete, you’re right, it’s all down to see what actually happens moving forward.

    I think the 2 game appeal will be replaced with a yellow card – no other decision makes logical sense.

  • sam

    Finally, some positive media spin on Edu-gate:

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/sunsport_columnists/2621237/UEFA-mugs-are-falling-over-themselves.html

    Of course, i’m not sure how reliable SUN is!

  • enano

    Well fellow gooners, seems like Freddie Ljungberg is heading back to Arsenal on loan starting Jan 1

    Looking forward to it!
    =)

  • Bergkamp4Eva

    BBC Football has a new article up entitled – “Ferguson backs Eduardo suspension”.

    At first i thought this was going to be SAF rubbing it in and stirring it up, something i feel the BBC hopes people would feel, but after reading the article I feel Ferguson actually makes some intelligent comments. Although he does say that he feels UEFA had to send a strong disciplainary record due to the high nature of the competition, he does go on to say tha;

    I agree with Arsene, I would ask the same question ‘is it going to happen to everyone?’
    “You become insular and protective of your own player and own team, we’re all selfish that way.
    “I would have been saying ‘what about all the rest of the players?’.
    “But I wouldn’t have been pleased if my player had done that.
    “I wouldn’t say it publicly though, because when you do that you’re in danger of losing the morale of the dressing room.
    “Privately, as I’ve done many times, you have a different view, but I wouldn’t do it publicly.”

    So he agrees with Arsene that if this is the route that UEFA are taking then they have to take the same route of action with every player in the Champions/Europa league. But as reported to by the Times today it seems like their not which makes me very agree and wonder why did they do this? I really do hope Arsenal are succesful in their appeal as it seems to me that UEFA have no grounds to deal out this wholly disproportiante sentance to someone who is generally a very honest player. The story continues…

  • Kuka

    ….the choice of the article’s title is quite misleading. I was upset too when I saw the title, but Reading through the interview, I found a somewhat different message from Ferguson.

  • Debs

    Ramsey scored a stunner against Italy for the U-21s yesterday! And I’m beaming like a proud parent! lol :D

  • Debs

    And Wilshere also wins a penalty (a legit one, ofcourse! :) ) for the winner against Macedonia U-21s!

  • Fabrez

    “I’m beaming like a proud parent” – lol Debs! Was a pretty sweet volley from Ramsey. Always great to see a Gunner scoring. And really hope Edu doesn’t get a hard time at Wembley!

  • Debs

    Yeah, Fabrez, I hope he doesn’t! But I expect him to score a hat-trick at Wembley! Ok, maybe not a hat-trick, but a goal, definitely!

  • Debs

    RVP just scored for Holland! :) Now if he can just keep away from injury, it’ll be the perfect work-out!

  • Pete

    Off topic, but just read an interesting article.

    Arsenal are regarded as a more valuable club than Chelsea, Manchester City and the New York Giants in Forbes’ rich list for 2009.

    Manchester United have been named No 1 – ahead of the NFL’s Dallas Cowboys. But the surprise is seventhplaced Arsenal, where manager Arsene Wenger has refused to spend big in this summer’s transfer market.

    Liverpool are in 18th place, Chelsea 42nd and Tottenham 65th, while City just make the top 100.

  • Fabrez

    That’s the 1st thing i listened out for after Holland played…whether RvP was injured or not and he wasn’t thank goodness. Still another game to go tho!

  • Fabrez

    Interesting Pete…wonder how that list is determined…like the specifics…

  • Debs

    If it’s a correct list, I think it just goes to show that the debt we have, isn’t as bad as the others, and that we’re definitely sorted for the future. It just begs the question why every transfer window, it just always feels as if we’re too constrained financially to spend? Maybe the list takes into account assets such as the stadium, cos the Emirates is definitely worth a lot; much more than Anfield, Stamford Bridge and White Hart Lane, I think.

  • Debs

    Good to hear RVP isn’t injured! What are the odds of him getting rested against Scotland?!

  • Debs

    Spain play Belgium later at 9pm. It’ll be interesting to see how Vermaelen does against the likes of Torres and Villa. If they play, ofcourse!

  • Debs

    Forgive my over-excitement, but Bendtner’s just scored a screamer against Portugal! I swear all our players are scoring this international break! Very very good for confidence!

  • http://kierandelaney.net kierandelaney.net

    http://www. youtube . com / watch?v=WiDdFq3Y1qQ

    RAMBOO! Sorry, Cesc who? Serious steal at £5m, Ramsey and Wilshere will be an amazing midfield.

  • http://kierandelaney.net kierandelaney.net

    http : // www . youtube . com/ watch?v=WiDdFq3Y1qQ

    RAMBOO! Sorry, Cesc who? Serious steal at £5m, Ramsey and Wilshere will be an amazing midfield.

    Rubbish moderation games! Debs, get some links up for Bendtner/Van Persie.

  • Fabrez

    Rooney took a dive a fooled the ref by gesturing after versus Slovenia. To make it worse, Rooney swing a foot at the defender as he goes down an he ends up damaging his ankle. They’d have the firing squad out if he weren’t English…. That’s a joke! Well Debs, Sneijder got injured for Holland so I would think IF he was gonna get rested, I’d think mayve he wouldn’t now… Spain v Belgium should be a good 1. I saw pics of Cesc training…so he’s fit to play? And the Bendtner goal was pretty tasty! haha

  • Fabrez

    *and fooled

  • Pete

    Blimey, that Ramsey goal was tasty wasn’t it! lol Loved his flicked pass to his team mate before his volly.

    Seems like a lot of our youngsters are coming good at the moment :D

  • Fabrez

    Wow…a bit random but Italy beat Georgia thanks to 2 own goals from the same player! 2-0! How unfortunate is that?? lol Hope Edu scores tonight! But time is almost up tho…

  • Fabrez

    And seems as if Rosicky didn’t even make the bench for their crucial qualifier. Wonder y… I really thought he’d play but it’s good for us in terms of injury concerns!

  • Fabrez

    Djourou out for 6 months after knee surgery…

  • Gooner Get Ya

    Djourou is out for 6 months according to gooner talk. He is having an op on his knee. If that is true we have to rely on on senderos and silvestre… I am worried.

  • Fabrez

    Yup…it’s on Sky Sports…it’s official. I would play Song as a CB in front of Silvestre. I would give Senderos a chance if 1 of our 1st 2 are out tho…i just don’t want to see Silvestre in there plz.

  • Debs

    Kieran, the RVP goal’s here, at about 24seconds:
    youtube.com/watch?v=eOwG31GKRl0

    Bendtner goal:
    youtube.com/watch?v=dkXl9fUz5kg

    Thank God for youtube!

  • Debs

    I can watch Ramsey’s forever! :D
    youtube.com/watch?v=2XWkIFWTnUE

  • Debs

    Oops! Didn’t know you’d posted Ramsey’s already, Kieran. My bad!

  • Debs

    Wow! Spain walloping Belgium. 4 nil at the moment. Wish I was watching!

  • Reesaroo

    Villa Fan here. I personally don’t like either the Gunners or Man U, and as much as I don’t want to sound like the ol’ coot Reina, I reckon every team gets a dudd deal when they go to Old Trafford. This was a rigged game out of the top draw. My left nut would have done a better job refereeing that game – and it certainly would have given the Arshavin penalty!