Life without Ade and Kolo…

Life after Adebayor and Toure will start very soon. Yesterday’s debate was very interesting, with a lot of comments and different opinions giving us a lot to talk about throughout the afternoon when the Toure news broke. In one way, my reaction by the title of the last article, “Selling Kolo Toure is a mistake” expressed my initial reaction to the news and although my sentiments haven’t changed all that much, it may have been a little bit of an over-reaction.

From an emotional point of view, I want Kolo Toure at Arsenal – simple as that. He has epitomised what Arsenal is all about in recent times and has been a very loyal player through out his career at Arsenal. He’s played in midfield, left back, right back and central defence after original joining as an attacking player. He played along side Sol Campbell, Philippe Senderos and William Gallas in central defence and has been an outstanding player in my mind for the club.

In January, Kolo Toure handed in a transfer request and here’s what he said about it:

“I have been here a long time, and when I saw some players leaving the Club last year that was difficult for me. ”Then when we didn’t start the season well I was scared. You start to think that maybe the Club don’t need you anymore. When it’s like that and you are 28 you have to think about yourself as well. But I came back, I’m playing at the moment and I hope that will carry on. There is still time on my contract and I hope the Club will show me that they need me. When you love somebody it’s important that they love you back. I have loved this club for years, and I always give everything for the team. Since I’ve been here I’ve just tried to do my best but you can’t be at the top all the time. Sometimes your level will drop a bit. That’s when you need to be strong and bounce back and that’s what I tried to do this season. People know I love the Club, nobody can say I don’t. I believe you can only truly love one club in your career, and my club is Arsenal. It doesn’t matter if I ever move onto another team, Arsenal will always be the one in my heart. When my career is finished and I’m older, I will always think of myself as an Arsenal man.”

It was a heart filled statement and it’s clear that Kolo loves being at Arsenal – he’s a fans favourite and a friendly figure around the team. But you have to consider the background behind some of the comments in his statement – firstly he refers to “not being at the top all the time” and secondly he referred to “sometimes your level with drop” and of course, this must be related to his view and the view of the club that his performances last year were not up to the standard of what they were once upon a time. When Gallas and Djourou were fit in Winter, it was them who had their run in the team and it was Kolo who was dropped.

Kolo goes on to say “it doesn’t matter if I ever move onto another team” and maybe this statement offers an insight into the thinking behind the matter – the transfer to Man City first came about in January and I’m sure it would have been discussed between Arsene and Kolo. Of course, from Kolo’s point of view, he wanted first team football and for him, if he wasn’t first choice, then it would be a problem for him.

However, from an economic point of view, the amount of money offered for Kolo was interesting – a fee believed to be £16m – take into consideration that we bought the player for £150k. Kolo, you must remember was in his last year of his contract and could have gone for free next summer. At 29 / 30, a player has retail value and as he wasn’t first choice, and wanted first team football, then maybe this can be considered a good piece of business. Arsene is famous for selling players before they decline and still have retail value – and for all his mutual affection, would you say Kolo was on the decline? I don’t actually want to analyse whether or not that’s true, because Kolo is one of my favourite players. I like players who play for the badge, respect their colours and as a defender, puts themselves in line of fire, and of course, that’s Kolo.

Kolo stat’s from last season were actually terrible – Sky Sports revealing he was 67th in the list of defenders in terms of aerial duel, 28th in terms of tackles, and 35th in clearances. When you look at Terry – being #1 or in the top 4 or 5 for these figures, then put his season into perspective. 67th in the list does not bode well considering there are only 20 clubs in the league.

Looking at the transfer activity so far, it does look like Arshavin was brought in (with time to adapt) to replace Adebayor and Vemaelen brought in to replace Kolo Toure. So in reality, we haven’t yet added to the squad, instead we’ve just replaced players that have left – albeit, with a whopping £40m surplus in cash.

Ray Parlour was in the news today and talked about the Toure transfer:

“It will be interesting to see who Arsène Wenger brings in if Kolo does leave. He’s got service from a quality player over nine years, they’ve paid his wages and they’ve still made money. I think Arsène Wenger has been unbelievable in the transfer market since he first arrived. He bought Nicolas Anelka for half a million pounds and sold him for £23.5million the season after. Nobody can knock him in the transfer market, but Adebayor has left and if Kolo Touré leaves you do need to replace him because the squad is lighter. He needed a couple of players anyway so I’m sure Arsène Wenger has got his scouting network all over the world to try and get the right players for the team.”

Now we’ve got a relatively balanced squad, there is still the matter of whether or not we’re going to sign players – and as I mentioned on Sunday, it does look like our fortunes may lie in what Arsene does with this money. If he doesn’t sign anyone, then yes, we have a squad that can go into the season – and if we have no injuries and the players are on form, then we still do have a very good chance of winning the title. But it’s a risk. Reducing the experience in the squad and reducing the size of the senior squad is definitely a risk. Yes, we’ll see more of Vela, Wilshere and Ramsey – but the question is do we have enough strength in depth and do we have adequate experience in the squad?

We’ll see what Arsene has to say later today and maybe by the time you read this, the Toure transfer may be wrapped up and we may have heard from Le Boss.

Til later mes amigos…

  • syah

    cant wait to watch later’s game!

  • TheSKAGooner

    Kolo, as a player and a person, is someone I think all Gooners will be fans of no matter where he’s playing. There’s no way Kolo can be anything other than a fan favorite on and off the pitch. He’ll always be a Gunner, and no one can wish him ill for pursuing regular first team football. It’s entirely the opposite of the Ade departure.

    Having said that, it’s obvious decisions need to be made about this season. It’s a critical one coming up, and Arsene must be brutally honest about the team we’re going to put on the pitch. Arsene said it himself…this season it has to work or he will have to break it apart and build it all again. That is most definitely not a process I relish going through at this stage. Personal affections aside, and I’m sure Arsene has them for Kolo both as a player and a person, the option to move him now at the price City were willing to pay is an opportunity for the club to improve and one that Arsene could not in good conscience pass up. And as noted in the article above, the OptaStats do not lie. Consider also Arsene’s use of the ProZone video system to study every facet of the squads performance, and I’m sure it was clear to Arsene that the best option for the team and for Kolo was to part ways this season and not next year.

    The critical thing that will determine if this sale is a success for the club, especially from the supporters perspective, is what Arsene does with the money. With some £40m+ in the kitty from the two sales we have a real opportunity to strengthen in the midfield and at the back. I won’t mention any names because that just starts internecine bickering, but strengthening at the back should be our objectives. Signing Huntelaar would be a fancy, and I’d dearly love to have him in the side. But I do not think adding a striker this summer is the most prudent or optimal use of the money available (unless we sell someone else that gives us the cash to buy Huntelaar).

    So, in general, I feel your pain. I share it for the loss of one of our favorites. But I honestly believe this was a decision reached mutually between Arsene and Kolo and hopefully it will prove successful for all concerned. I want to see Kolo having a solid season at City with many starts. I want to see Arsene bring in additions that add the missing pieces to the Arsenal puzzle that leads to trophies. And that will help all of us feel better.

  • jeffvip

    Wenger saying he will make new signing. Hopes he does

  • MoZine.

    If things stay as they are WE are not strong enough to challenge for Any of the major trophies simply due to the fact that if any of our main players get injured the ones that will fill in are at least a season or two away from being top four standard…I hope that am wrong but the last two seasons hve shon me that much…

  • Fabrez

    I’m taking a break from the Kolo depression in a few hrs with what will be our 1st real challenging pre-season friendly in my opinion! Like Syah, i’m looking fwd 2 the game immensely!

  • Steveyj

    hey all,

    read an interesting blog article this morning… thought it might interest you. Again not sure how true this is. BUt if it’s true we would definately fill in one gap in the arsenal team. Take a read of this….

    “Hello all, on a somewhat bizarre note, I was on the Arsenal official website this morning looking at the fixture list for this coming season. Anyways I headed over to the squad list, and Roma’s Daniele De Rossi was listed as a ‘midfielder’ carrying the number 13, that has been free since Alex Hleb’s mid-life crisis. After making sure I didn’t miss anything newsworthy (like Arsenal solving all of their midfield issues at once), I went back to take a screenshot of the gaffe to put it up here, but the error had already been seen too. Either this was an Arsenal.com employee jumping the gun (a man can dream) or a computer savvy supporter remains to be seen, either way, whether you knew it or not, there were a solid 15-30 minutes this morning where all was good, our slight midfield had a backbone; a dirty ballwinner was backing up Cesc and setting up the attack. But alas every dream comes to an end.

    Secondly, Wenger has come out and essentially said that the £15m Toure transfer to Manchester City is hours away from completion. The Daily Mail claims that Wenger is going to send that money straight across London to lure Brede Hangeland, the 6 foot 5 Norweigen central defender, away from Fulham. The Cottagers certainly want to hang on to their rock, but Roy Hodgson has a contingency plan should they take the money. The Fulham manager has reportedly inquired about the services of Hull defender, Michael Turner to replace Hangeland.”

    What are your thoughts on this? True or not true?

  • Berth

    Steveyi – I love that dream of yours. De -Rossi!!! Impossible, not in Arsenal’s world – more so not in Wenger’s world.

  • Steveyj

    @Berth haha yeah true would be a nice dream… but then nothing is impossible more improbable if anything. But then anything can happen. and i don’t believe de rossi is out of reach

  • http://kierandelaney.net kierandelaney.net

    But then I read this and well….. £15m for a player with one year left on his contract, who didn’t have a great season last time round, seems too good to be true. It clearly shows Man City have no idea when it comes to transfers – why not just wait and pick him up for free next season, or massively reduced in January? Mental.

    I guess Vermalen in – Kolo out and Arshavin in – Adebayor out and Arsenal are roughly where we were 8 months ago, but with another 8 months of experience, and a hungry Rosicky instead of a fat Nasri and Eddie back up front.

  • bayo

    wenger.says he got 7 defenders so senderous and silvestre is part of them yet he said senderous was leaving and he still counted him so this means sendorous wld be at the emirate next season cus if not why did he take him along for pre season training cus other teams do not.dont be surprised that wenger would give his failed project another season at the emirate so that if it works out he is gonna say i told u cus he loves taking the glory to himself.wenger would not buy a replacement cus he says he has 7 and he wont increase the numbers again.

  • bayo

    we are going to see a combination of senderous and silvestre next season oh my god winger got 7 defenders gallas vermaelen djourou song senderous silvestre csn wenger himself stand up and say this cd would win the premier league.he wld only buy just one player more and that is the midfield cus he wont buy more than 2.the season is getting to an end gradually thank God i dont v to faise my hope

  • bayo

    for all hangerland hopefuls wenger would not buy him he id 28 years old.going out am trying to get away from hypertension.just like i said yesterday IN MAKIN THE RIGHT DECISIONS I TRUST not silvestre and senderous

  • Justin

    Kolo has been an amazing player for Arsenal over the years, but his form has been dipping since a couple of seasons… So its time that AW made a decision about his future considering that he was reluctant to extend his contract!!!

    Buy Hangeland for £8 million + Senderos, and we get what was lacking with hieght and presence.. He is on £15,000 per week wages, and AW can easily double or triple his wages without disturbing the wage book… He could also be an good mentor for Hovard Nordviet too..

    Or else AW can include Micah Richards as part of the deal for Kolo.. And that will be the dead end for Eboue as Micah will cover both CB and RB slots.. I feel thats a good deal..

    And still AW has £30 million to spend on both DM and CF positions.. But a battling DM should be given the priority… Buy Inler and Arsenal will have an title winning team…

    What u say fellas!!!!!

  • Steveyj

    As conroversial as it may seem i still think the kolo deal is a very good deal for arsenal fc. As much as i hate to say it… yes i don’t rate sendros but i think he deserves a 2nd and last chance at arsenal. Under the right guidance he could learn to read the game from verm, and get some good tackling techniques off gallas, he could turn out ok. Definately think Hangeland would be a great signing too just for that extra bit of cover or even richards but doubt he’d leave. Inler is overrated and think there are better dm option out there.

    heres a few i highly rate
    Jeremy Toulalan
    de-rossi
    Javi Garcia
    eduardo (Eduardo Nascimento da Costa)
    Ramires (http://en.sambafoot.com/articles/289_Ramires_a_talent_for_the_future_page_1.html)

    and also either huntelaar or chamakh to fill the ade void all tho not entirely sure we need either with eduardo on scoring form.

    Just my views tho

  • Pete

    Kieran, spot on mate. Another example is that City could have bought De Jong for much less money in this transfer window due to his contract running out, than they did in January when they paid £18 million for him.

    The latest Kolo news is that he’s agreed personal terms with City and is in Manchester having a medical.

    It’s also being reported that we’re going to make a bid for Hangeland, Bordoux refuse to sell Chamakh to Sunderland, and we’re in an even better position to sign Huntelaar after Tottenham bought Crouch and Sunderland are about to sign Bent.

  • debs

    If those deals go through Pete, or at least a couple of them, we’ll be in a really strong position. Wenger said at the end of last season that he’ll re-evaluate the squad, and that’s just exactly what he’s doing. Not in the way we expected, but still a good way. I’m definitely sure we’ll be getting new players- I don’t think RVP would have signed if Wenger didn’t have a few tricks up his sleeve. We just have to wait and see who and when. Exciting times!

  • Steveyj

    Personally i think all the transfer for players coming to arsenal will happen after the emirates cup… Wenger has a few transfers up his sleeve and i reckon we could be in for a few pleasent surprises

  • Jimmy

    I agree with Justin, buy Hangeland for 8m + Senderos. Then we have plenty of money for a DM.

  • Andoni

    i hope we dont get huntellar. seems very average. chamakh maybe unproven but at least he has the potential to develop.
    all we need is a soid defensive midfielder and we´ll be good. who though, i´m not so sure.

  • Fabrez

    I’ve ceased to expect huntelaar, hangeland or any1 else! B4 i thought AW had tricks up his sleeve but nothing really came of it. Who knows…maybe this time he does but i aint banking on it. Been disappointed b4. But as always, ever so slightly hopeful. I’m just gonna take it a day at a time and enjoy the football we play with the top class players we have! :) Major excited about today’s fixture!

  • debs

    Yeah, can’t wait for the match today! But I’ve got to sort out my ATVO. Messing up again :-(

  • parsi

    Listen we all know that the greedy ade simply had to go. We all also know that, love him or not, kolo is not the player he was and £15m-£16m is too good to turn down. From my own point of view either gallas signs a new deal or he has to go too cos he is in the last year of his contract and we have seen too many players walk away on a free over the last few years and it is just bad business to let that happen especially in our financial situation. I really feel for senderos – a good guy with a great heart for the club but he just has not recovered from the mauling dogbreath gave him twice and now for his own sake he needs a fresh start. Eboue is the only one that I am not sure about selling tbh but again if the offer is too good to turn down then I would move him on. Listen the selling of all these players is not a bad thing at all. Most of them have run their course and the squad needs a freshening up in a big way plus I dont see the point in keeping a squad that isnt good enough to begin with. If we had any other manager and any other board running our club then I dont believe there would be this level of anxiety amongst the fans cos we would believe quality re-inforcements were on the way but sadly we are stuck with a man that wont spend and a board that are happy to see good financial accounts and rising share prices

  • bayo

    wenger said we have 7 defenders including senderous silvestre so senderous is playing next season and he said he has to play some across the mid field that was referring to song so song is coming back to the defence so no more signings cus wenger is something i dont understand.liverpool is loosing alonso and buying aquilani but he is to stubborn to buy.

  • Gapuchi

    And typical Wenger vagueness on Arse TV Online -

    Well at the moment I’m more focussed to get everybody fit for the start of the season. We are looking at opportunities as well but there are still some pre-season games to see what we really need and when the time has come we will do something

    What we really need Arsene as Stevie Wonder could tell you is to finally replace Gilberto/Flamini/Diarra with a quality CM enforcer partner for Cesc!!!!

    You don’t need more pre-season games to see that it’s been horrifyingly obvious for the past 12 months!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • bayo

    arsenal is dying and beforeva total collapse its better to match to the emirates we are keeping quiet just give me the date i would buy my ticket and join you from nigeria

  • Vazy

    right i am very much willing to be proven wrong but, the likelihood of us or anyone else signing De Rossi is microscopic, a. hes a Roma faithful, b. Roma wouldn’t (unless something is very wrong) sell him unless they got a massive MASSIVE deal out of it. we do need someone LIKE him though.. its unfortunate but it defo wont be him (i am prepared to eat my words though as he would be a legendary signing)

    just thought id say that, don’t want people getting their hopes up about him

  • Leeroy.N

    At the end of the day no one knows what’s going on and why it is. We can’t second guess Arsene.. no one in this world can. I don’t believe he would let this amount of players go and other players be in limbo, such as Gallas, Senderos and Eboue without there being some kind of back up inniatied. He is too smart of a manager and tactician for those few who are starting to doubt his credentials and think he is not going to buy or that there is an underlaying plan. I have give up trying. LOL! I’ve spent hours looking at videos of every name we have been linked up with, analyzing them like i’m a scout, seeing reasons why we should or shouldnt get them. He has paid professionals doing that for him all year every year. Something is coming, and it will be worth the wait. Trust in Arsene.. Trust in Arsenal!

    Gooner Til I Die!

  • Pete

    Apparently a severnce package deal is still yet to be agreed between Kolo and Arsenal, according to SSN.

  • Leeroy.N

    Severence? For who??

  • bayo

    sorry guys another bad news for arsenal totenham v almost agreeb 8mil pounds for the defender.stormy roads are ahead

  • bayo

    for bassong

  • Berth

    @ Lerooy – I have a friend of my that knew Wenger very well and could predict his every action and pre planned action. I will tell you later

  • Leeroy.N

    BERTH – Really? Ok, tell him to start blogging on here!

  • bayo

    somebody pls talk to me abt wat is happening

  • Leeroy.N

    BAYO – Ok Ok. LOL! Where did you read that buddy? I can’t find it.

  • Pete

    Leeroy, the severnce package is for Kolo Toure. Apparently its in his contract with Arsenal.

  • bayo

    on tribal football.com and one other site

  • bayo

    leeroy do u know the funny thing every form of speculation abt our players going is always through but wen we are linked with good players it just dont happen hunterlar?hangerland?

  • harry

    OK. I admit it. I’m begining to be a little concerned. Not neccessarily with the lack of inward transfer activity, but with the club as a whole. Wenger very publically stated at the end of the season that he wanted to bring in experience to balance our youthful side. Yet we sell Toure (not a bad decision when taken in isolation) but when you stack it up with the players that have left over the last 2 years and the players that have come in (Arshavin aside) then these comments don’t make much sense. Ade and Toure sales are good business. No doubt about it. But the acid test is whether the proceeds are reinvested in the playing side or whether they are “hived” off to support the debt or into the back pockets of the BoD. believe me, until the boardroom “shenanigans” are sorted out, we will have the same issues year after year. Don’t get me wrong, there is a huge amount of potential in our squad but I do believe that we need some experience as well as “leaders”. Which, with due respect to Cesc, I don’t think we have. Sadly, for us at least, experienced and talented players who can lead a team are in short supply and demand a high premium and probably one we can’t/wont pay. If we do buy anyone, it will be the usual “10 mins before the deadline closes” Arsenal transfer and then wonder why we have a player who is not fit doesn’t give their best for a month or so. Anyway, enough doom and gloom. Thanks Kolo for the years of service and fingers crossed for a good season. p.s. Wenger get your wallet out !

  • Leeroy.N

    PETE – Yea, been there over 8yrs and something about a tribunal, blah blah blah. Haha! God knows how much he will get.. couple of Mil??

    BAYO – There’s a need for ergency from other teams when coming to get from us. Arsene and his team tend to be a little more cool and calculated I believe anyway. I personally will worry 11 O’clock August 31st. Or thinking ahead the day before we need to register them players for europe? Dont want that Arshavin mistake happening again!!

    Gooner Til I Die!

  • bayo

    how much is the severence pay somebody pks

  • bayo

    breaking news kolo toure passes man city medical and the severense package is meant for him if he finishes his contract.I bel wenger would only buy a defensive midfielder and thats all.pete wat do u think

  • JDD

    i would just like to list a few players who i think we should get and get other peoples opinions on these players.
    not in order

    Defenders-
    Giorgio Chiellini CB 24 Juventus
    Pepe CB/DM 26 Real Madrid
    Sébastien Squillaci CB 28 Sevilla
    Cristián Zapata DF 22 Udinese
    Brede Hangeland CB 28 Fulham
    Lorenzo De Silvestri RB 21 Lazio
    Mouhamadou Dabo RB 22 Saint-Etienne

    Midfielders-
    Rafael Van Der Vart AM 26 Real Madrid
    Wesley Sneijder CM/AM 25 Real Madrid
    Sulleyman Muntari CM 24 Inter Milan
    Mahamadou Diarra DM 28 Real Madrid
    Yaya Touré DM 26 Barcelona
    Yoann Gourcuff CM/AM 23 Bordeaux
    Blaise Matuidi DM 22 Saint-Etienne

    Strikers-
    Klaas-Jan Huntelaar 25 ST Real Madrid
    Bafétimbi Gomis ST 23 Saint-Etienne
    Pavel Pogrebnyak ST 25 Zenit Saint Petersburg
    Lukas Podolski 24 FWD 1. FC Köln
    Goran Pandev ST/AM 26 Lazio
    Marouane Chamakh 25 ST Bordeaux
    André-Pierre Gignac 23 ST Toulouse

    this a realistis list i could have obvioulsy writen players like messi and ribery but this is a list of players i think we could get.out of this list i would say we only need 1 CB 1 Midfielder and 1 ST and if Eboue leaves 1 RB.what do u guys think?

  • Pete

    Well, in my opinion, we definately need more than just a defensive midfielder, so hopefully we’ll buy at least two more players, preferably three – a top defender to replace Toure, a top striker to replace Ade and a defensive midfielder. I’ve always said that I’m against selling anyone unless we bring in a replacement, and ideally we’d just add to the squad. I can understand the sale of Adebayor and the Toure deal is looking like a good one for us too, but its no good selling them and not replacing them. But I dont think Wenger will do that, especially with over a month left in the transfer window.

    Remember, we were only told a week or two ago that Wenger would need to sell players in order to buy (we all assumed that meant guys like Senderos), so I guess stage of our summer transfer activity will be complete once Kolo’s transfer is complete. Once we get our £16 million and the Emirates Cup is out the way, we can get on with bringing in new players.

    As sad as I am to see him go, I do think this Toure deal is a very good one for us, as long as we bring in a replacement.

  • steve

    totally agree with pete… lets ahve a good emirates tourny and see what happens afterwards

  • Leeroy.N

    In the back of my mind I am wondering if we have to be a little shrewd with the money we are getting in. More about being carefull with it rather than not having it to spend at all. I can imagine now our negotiators are working tirelessly to bring down prices of players such as Huntelaar, and working on back-up plans such as Chamakh. I know they are looking at all players available from front to back. I look at the squad now without Adebayor and Toure and it’s not all doom and gloom. Whether you add them to last season or take them out of it. I KNOW we would have still come 4th, no problem. I’m not slating them or putting them down, Toure has been a major force for us at the back of the years and Adebayor was a serious threat for us upfront. We’ve agreed with have replaced what we have sold. Now we need to provide the cover and this cover has to be the new missing ingredient to boost our squad. Whether it’s Mid, Defence, attack or maybe all 3 for the right price it really does need to be filled. But I would hate us to rush in on a player or two who end up being no help at all or a serious flop. We have to admit all the new signings over ther eyear have been pretty much perfect (bearing in mind the touch and go Baptista who I actually did like). It’s just the anxiety of not knowing, waiting, hopes getting built up and dashed over players and rumours which is killing us all. I think missing out on players such as Cana and Bassoung rarely happens by mistake. Hopefully we will see why we didn’t get them why we had to wait for who’s coming in.

    Gooner til I Die!

  • Debs

    Toure’s signed a 4-year deal with City. I’m so so so sad to see him leave! :(

  • Leeroy.N

    DEBS – Sad day definatly. But there’s a sliver lining. You will see it.

  • Debs

    Good thing we’ve got a match coming up in a few minutes. I hope the squad get over Toure’s departure quickly and put on a good show today! And yeah, Leeroy.N, there’s definitely a silver lining!

  • Leeroy.N

    A nice clean sheet and plenty of goals. That’ll do for me right now!

  • Fabrez

    Bye Kolo…i speak on the behalf of most Arsenal fans when I saw it was a pleasure having u play for us. Mint player in terms of commitment and loyalty. And agreed Leeroy! Hope we see a spirited performance! Wanna see some lush goals!

  • Fabrez

    *when I say

  • devday

    Line up: 4,3,3

    Vito Mannone
    Emmanuel Eboue – Thomas Vermaelen – William Gallas – Armand Traore
    Denilson – Alex Song – Cesc Fabregas
    Andrey Arshavin – Nicklas Bendtner – Robin Van Persie

  • Leeroy.N

    Pleny of goals then!

  • Debs

    Woo! Fabrezy’s playing! :-) lol

  • devday

    Cesc scores, good goal 1-0 to the Arsenal!

  • Pete

    1-0 fagregas scores :D

  • Kuka

    1-0 to the Arsenal———-Fab

  • devday

    We’re playing a 4-3-3 like last season, and it’s got Bendtner on the left and Arshavin on the right.

    It’s more of 4-2-3-1.

    Vito Mannone

    Emmanuel Eboue – Thomas Vermaelen – William Gallas – Armand Traore

    Denilson – Alex Song

    Nicklas Bendtner – Cesc Fabregas – Andrey Arshavin

    Robin Van Persie

  • Kuka

    am liking what am seeing so far…..we have a good team out there. Its nice to know that we still have Rosicky, Eduardo, Ramsey etc….on the bench…

  • Kuka

    *Sagna too

  • Leeroy.N

    Why would you not use Van Persie more on the left, he can hold up the ball a little better than Bendtner I would imagine. He ould draw more attention out wide for Bendter to practise making those through the middle.

    Bit I like what I’m seeing! Come on you Gunners!!

    0-1

    Gooner Til I Die!

  • Leeroy.N
  • Fabrez

    Enjoying it so far! A great goal by Fabrez lol Top vision by RvP and Vermaelen looking solid!

  • Fabrez

    Oh boy…Traore injury? A bit worried. And he looked good.

  • Debs

    Might not be anything serious- probably precautionary.Either ways, we’ve got Clichy and Gibbs at LB so we should be alright. Except ofcourse if Wenger was planning on playing him as a winger…

  • Pete

    Song is playing really well! :D

  • Kuka

    …think we should keep Ebue….(I never knew I would ever say this but I think he is great cover-up for Sagna

  • Fabrez

    True Debs…i would have had him down more as a winger with so many LBs… And yes Pete! I was literally just about to say that! Looks good at DM. Liking his movement, passing and most importantly, his tackling…

  • Debs

    Majority of the players look impressive!

  • Kuka

    ….really impressive display by the Arsenal….

  • syah

    im really really crossing my fingers to see rosicky play

  • Leeroy.N

    Is Vela back from International duty yet?

  • Debs

    Don’t think Vela’s back. He just won a tournament with Mexico very recently, so I doubt it.

    Very scrappy second half, this…

  • Leeroy.N

    True to form of a typical arsenal game. This is the time the players need to come together dig deep, focus and seal the win. One lazy mistake could cost us the result we desrve. Come on lads, you can do it!!

    Gooner Til I Die!!!

  • syah

    is arsene purposely playing w ten men?

  • JDD

    after watching todays friendly and seeing the team play comfortably in the 4-3-3 formation i think wenger will use this formation permanently.if we do i feel we no longer need to sign a striker we would have 8 players capable of playing in the front 3-van persie, bendtner, arshavin, eduardo, walcott, vela and rosicky plus some of the younger players(nasri&wilshere could also play there but i think wenger wants them to play a more central role).i still feel we need a centre-half(to give competition to the current cb) and a central-midfielder(to add depth to this position).after seeing eboue start yet again and playing 90minutes i think he will be stying therefore no need to buy a rb.

  • JDD

    after watching todays match and seeing the team play comfortably in the 4-3-3 formation i think wenger will use this formation permanently.if we do i feel we no longer need to sign a striker we would have 8 players capable of playing in the front 3-van persie, bendtner, arshavin, eduardo, walcott, vela and rosicky plus some of the younger players(nasri&wilshere could also play there but i think wenger wants them to play a more central role).i still feel we need a centre-half(to give competition to the current cb) and a central-midfielder(to add depth to this position).after seeing eboue start yet again and playing 90minutes i think he will be stying therefore no need to buy a rb.

  • zohaib

    Ideally:

    1) Get a proper DM
    2) Sell Senderos
    3) Then get one more proper, replacement CB for Toure & Senderos
    4) Get a proper, experienced, first-choice striker (although I don’t think there’s any need when it comes to numbers. Sure it wouldn’t hurt to have more quality as well) – someone who’s well built and is right-footed and a good finisher (something we lack) – someone like Zaki or Hulk (though I think he’s more left-footed).

    Did anyone see Hulk’s goals this past week. He scored two. Real classy finishes. Like something you’d see from Eduardo or Henry.

  • bayo

    goal.com is reporting that eboue waved goodbye to arsenal today arsenal would not win a shirt this season.JDD said we dont need a striker we would get to see wen we play 442 and bent becomes the target man the central midfield was porous denilson has not improved a bit.ENjoy watching cesc and van persie for the last season.

  • bayo

    by the end of next season there would be big riot at the emirates.one thing we fans pretend to do is that man city is not there or other clubs are not there.wen chelsea bought all their players we said thesame thing that they just v the players but not the team until they beat us black and blue.mancity first 11 is adebayor(santa) tevez(bellamy} robinho ireland de jong(kompany) wright philips. at the back bridge toure lescot(cus they wld get him) richards.yet we tend to behave as if this man city team did not beat us black and blue last season.lets accept man city is a threat and stop saying we got wenger wen mourinho came we were saying thesame thing.we better wake up.even their bench is better than ours.

  • bayo

    we would cry at the end of next season.

  • bayo

    everybody should thik abt wat eduardo said he says.it would be very hard really very hard for arsenal next season he says now kolo is gone too so i dont know.our aim would be to be in the top 4 next season.pls lets see things clearly and stop all this stupid i believe stuff if one of our players that understand everything could say that i think its something we should think about and think with a clear head forsome minutes not with the fan attitude u all said the money is good yes for wenger and the board for the fans we would get just a signing and we would be so shattered at the end of the season like never before .I feel so bad

  • bayo

    arshavin would be saying in his mind if i had known i wld v stayed in russia.eduardos statement says it all.one thing we dont accept is that arsenal is selling those players to pay debts cus dont bel wenger cus he has been telling lies for 3yrs.oh i wld sign exp instead of saying i wld sell oh we got money.champions league qualifier is arond and europa 80 percent of good players are going to be cup tied.the end is near

  • Berth

    Wenger is an a**

  • Demzz

    sad he has gone! truely even though he was 67th in the league of defenders and there r like 20 teams dt is so funny!! lol.. but for real he speech actually nearly brought a drip of red paint to my arsenal shirt! but then i imagined him in a light blue shirt! den the shirt paint dried!

    they say in the newspapers dt we r close 2 signing huntelar! which is alright.. dont rate him as a speedy player but he sure can score goals! and mr ice man bergkamp wasent speedy but sure he could score goals!! same kinda age bergkamp came in around his 25 26! dont no whcih midfielder we would buy ut we have song i love song man.. i think he stepped up in the last half of the season.. and denilson is a tough player butttttttttttttttttt!! like sky sports said there is more to football den the grass we play on!! we have no arieal pressence.. so im thinking maybe! arsenal is changing the way! we always had big defenders. sol campbell.. mr adams.. mr keown.. mr bould.. we was invinsible with toure and campbell! i think.. lol.. its been so long.. lol.. but i cvant wait 2 get so drunk i pass out in my own arsenal top around all my gunner fans screaming.. champions.. champions till my voice goes..

    im dreams but it what makes this o so special!!

    in arsene we trust

    and u cant spell arsenal without arsenal!!!

  • Berth

    Song was slow in midfield; Bedtner missing chances as usual and Silvestre continued his out dated system of defending; no maturity in midfield, no maturity in attack; midfield had a lazy and stupid Song. The team is in shambles, the belief is low; even if you have the right players, you still need to blend this players. What bits my imagination is how average we as fans and club has accepted to be. Toure is out of Arsenal as in out!!! and Wenger thinks he is on track, and some fans belief we are on track – Wenger is an a** and he will always remain one.

  • edison

    I think whats just been said is a severe overreaction to Arsene getting rid of TWO players who last season didnt always help the dynamic of the team ( particularly adebayor ). So i dont think there is any need for such an overblown reaction.

    Arsene WILL, repeat WILL bring more players to the squad, without a doubt. If our last truly impressive signing (arshavin) is anything to go by – i remember he was doubtfully back on a plane to russia before we heard that we had only gone and successfuly signed him – then expect Wenger to make a good measured decision in bringing new talent to Arsenal.

    Yes MAN CITY do look threatening, and potentially will rival the likes of liverpool and chelsea ( let alone us 4th place gunners ). BUT we are a strong team, have respect and faith in Arsenal –
    Cesc Wallcot Eduardo Arshavin Rosicky Nasri VanPersie
    Our offensive line EASILY matches the likes of MAN CITY or ANY OTHER top 4 team !

  • Berth

    He should as well consider selling Fabregas and stop the club from breathing; does he or whoever is analysing the situation think from there ass – what is their motive!!! WENGER A** please tell me what is your motive and purpose for this club; it looks like the coach is out of ideas. Am really pissed off and shocked to silence.

  • bayo

    call the realistic gooners anything because we are not living in a fools. Dmezz u are going to brek down with your passion next season and it wont be controlable.3 seasons ago everything we v been seeing is just the service of songs and the way keeping next season is the funeral.

  • Mehedi

    who is zezinho

  • Berth

    People have already concluded that Vermelean plays with his head while Kolo plays with his mind and barley read games. In fairness whoever made that comment or thought it out is a bastard. Vermelean has not even tasted the premiership, he hasn’t played Rooney, he hasn’t been turned inside out by Gerrad; the guy is from a very low league and you as a bastard (whoever it is) is comparing him. I won’t be surprised if Wenger sells Arshavin and Cesc next season. And please replace Song and denilson in that your porous midfield

  • edison

    I think everyone needs to stop typing absolute garbage, which is nothing more than a super-speculative close-minded view of Arsenal as a club.

    Anyone who seems to be buying the media frenzy of ‘ARSENAL LOSING TOUCH’ and losing hopes of staying in the top four,needs to get a grip. Belt up guys and wait for something to happen instead of condemning everything like you know better than Arsene Wenger.

  • bayo

    the next sad news by next morning is going to be eboue off to fiorentina and the great whinger would say i got gavin hoyte,thesame way he stuck to justin without no result.I knew wenger has lost it wen he signed silvestre or wat justification is there to bringing in sick silvestre.THE FUNERAL IS GONNA BE NEXT SEASON.season ticket next season is just like paying to go watch a funeral

  • bayo

    well said berth in wenger we trust as if he is jesus.we missed ades hold up play in the team though we wont accept it like wenger our mentor arsenal wld be beaten black and blue

  • bayo

    i love you berth going to sleep now at least i wld rest from all this troubles and am expecting the next bad news.ARSENAL FAIL IN HUNTELARR BID.

  • Sam

    It may be a bitter pill to swallow, but Kolo has served us well and his departure is a nice piece of business. I just hope AW follows this up with a few nice pieces of business to bring in what Arsenal needs to compete at highest level.

  • Berth

    2010 – ?????? – Toure and Ade out and still counting!!

    2009 – 4th – No trophy – Hleb and Flamini out

    2008 – 3rd – No trophy – Henry and Ljunberg out

    2007 – 4th – No trophy – Pires, Edu out and Bergamp(not sure)

    2006 – 4th – No trophy – A Cole out

    2005 – 2th – FA cup – Viera out

    2004 – 1st

    The fans need no reminding.he is still building a team!! lets not forget.

  • IQGob

    It was wrong to sell Kolo. He was our longest serving player with lots of quality and experience. I thought we needed more experienced players not fewer!! I know Arsene knows, but what does he actually know? Well he knows what he intends to do next, to buy or not to buy. But who knows whether his plans will work for this coming season. Whatever he does needs to have the right impact this season, not next season or the one after, THIS Season!!

  • devday

    Berth, please can you mind your language and name calling. Appreciate your views, but please keep an eye on name calling etc, it’s not too nice. And of course, would appreciate it if everyone would avoid swearing if possible.

    Appreciate it guys – thanks!

  • Leeroy.N

    Wow! I always miss the juicy stuff! HAHA! I’m gonna quit working nights just to watch the place thrive. Tension is high in the the midst of fans, non-believers and haters. Have faith people. Trust in the team you love and trust in him who leads them. (wow bible-esc or what!!)

    GOONER TIL I DIE!!!!