< ![CDATA[oh and btw ! eduardo might be ready to play !!!!!!!!

boy am i looking forward to that !

http://www.arsenal.com/news/injury-news

< ![CDATA[okay fair point. debs and kieran. thanks for 'showing me the light' (not meant sarcastically).

btw kieran, mate, wat browser do you have ? mine saves it if something as annoying as crashing/restarting etc happens. dont you use mozilla ? leme guess. u were using chrome eh ?

debs, placards and songs is okay. but then the player would need to see it for it to matter. and theres a good chance he won't be able to.
and good point about it affecting other players. i didnt think of that. but aren't the players who dont play well, get boo-ed only when they get the ball ? if so then it shouldnt affect the others. but if its general boo-ing like against aston villa, then it is obviously different. but then with the exception of clichy and a few others, everybody else was anonymous, so one can understand why there was general boo-ing.

encouraging them seems like the right thing to do, being uncomplicated, disambigous and positive. but its because that tactic hasnt been working, which is why some are resorting to boo-ing. they are desperate for change. nobody knows a guaranteed way to bring it about and so boo-ing is one of the ways which is practiced. i think wenger already instills skyscrapers full of 'confidence, faith and belief' in them. maybe the supporters' encouragement doesnt have as much of an influence on them as any other clubs' supporters have on their players. maybe.

i have seen boo-ing being done in a way that is not-nasty and not-abominable. i'v seen it done in a light-hearted manner that isn't meant to offend. thats probably why i'm putting up an argument for the other side. but i realize that maybe the culture where u are is just different and people dont take boo-ing in the same sense. if thats the case then its certainly better to not boo and encourage the players instead.

i just hope i was able to express my views in a way that was not offensive and that made a little bit of sense.
thanks for having a decent, sensible arguement though. theres too many immature nuts out there who don't know how to argue in a healthy way and take frustrations from other areas of their lives out on a comments page because it is so easy.
i respect and appreciate your views and ability to make what seems like an immense effort these days, to give respect to another individual when you can easily choose not to.

anyway. hopefully arsenal's fortunes can change soon. walcott out for 3 months isnt a great start. i guess its better to look at the bright side and say, maybe this means wilshere or vela get a chance.]]>

< ![CDATA[Whatever mates, I guess I over reacted. But there has to be a way of making our words heard. A kind of forum were fans interact with the coaches(LOL).

I hate it when all you fine people suggest good ideas, only for the ideas to be trashed in a bin a hope not. We need to be heard.]]>

I agree with Kieran yet again! I’m sure people would argue that they’re top level footballers and that they’re paid a lot of money so they should be able to deal with it, but the fact is that we’re there to support, not make their jobs harder than it already is!

< ![CDATA[Rubbish I just wrote a long and eloquent dismissal of booing in general and lost it all when my browser crashed.

Main points:-
1) No hard feelings pissed off, I just happen to think manners and respect are important, as is getting behind and supporting the team you've paid to watch. That's right, support, we're not "Football Boo'ers". If we have such a fundamental difference in views on something so important, its unlikely that we'll agree on anything else. I don't want to sack the manager and change the team every time we lose for example.
2) Debs - spot on.
3) Zohaib - I have no problem, as Debs says, with directing comments at players. Several times I've shouted from the touchline (easier at Highbury obviously) and like to think the players have heard me - I remember Ray Parlour once turned round after I shouted "Ray pull your fucking finger out, I've paid good money to watch you lose the ball all day long". He went on to score one of his rare goals. The point is, booing is ineloquent, uncouth and abominable. It ruins the atmosphere at matches, it ruins the game and it shows you to be fickle and disloyal. I cannot believe people booed on Saturday. Its intensely negative. Spurring someone on is totally different. I know Villa fans who attended Saturday and they all unanimously agreed - the atmosphere was nasty towards the home side, the fans were disrespectful and not only did Arsenal have to cope with going down 2-0 but they had to cope with their own fans turning on them as well. If I was Cesc I'd have half packed my bags already.]]>

< ![CDATA[Pires-Vieira-Cesc-Ljungberg

By far the best, when they all play well that is!]]>

< ![CDATA[I understand the booers' (not a real word is it?) point of view, but still, the players OBVIOUSLY know they're not playing up to standard, so does booing really help? I know for a few players, it does (e.g Gavin Strachan- he said so in his blog), but generally, as a team, I don't think it helps their morale if the crowd boos at every opportunity (although Zoihab, I have no problem booing the other team!)
It's a different case if the WHOLE team were shit, then I guess that may be justified, but that's usually not the case for us. For example Clichy plays his heart out all the time but at the end all he hears are the boos! As far as he is concerned, he's being booed as well. I think the problem with booing is the fact that it's generalized. Every player is affected- those playing well and those who are not. I guess If you feel Gallas is horrible, hold a placard up or something or sing a song directed at him. I know booing is the easiest thing to do but it's just the fact that it's directed at everyone!]]>

Kieren we both are wishing the club success from different point of views. There shoudn’t be any hard feelings.